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				|  Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 12:28 pm    Post subject: Ah, yes....more left wing nut jobs at work!!!!! |   |  
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	  | Liberals Going After Fox Advertisers  (I do think we should say, "Crazy, Far Left Liberals"..not just liberals) Jul 27 04:08 PM US/Eastern
 By DAVID BAUDER
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 NEW YORK (AP) - Liberal activists are stepping up their campaign against Fox News Channel by pressuring advertisers not to patronize the network.
 MoveOn.org, the Campaign for America's Future and liberal blogs like DailyKos.com are asking thousands of supporters to monitor who is advertising on the network. Once a database is gathered, an organized phone-calling campaign will begin, said Jim Gilliam, vice president of media strategy for Brave New Films, a company that has made anti-Fox videos.
 
 The groups have successfully pressured Democratic presidential candidates not to appear at any debate sponsored by Fox, and are also trying to get Home Depot Inc. to stop advertising there.
 
 At least 5,000 people nationwide have signed up to compile logs on who is running commercials on Fox, Gilliam said. The groups want to first concentrate on businesses running local ads, as opposed to national commercials.
 
 "It's a lot more effective for Sam's Diner to get calls from 10 people in his town than going to the consumer complaint department of some pharmaceutical company," Gilliam said.
 
 Some of videos produced by Gilliam's company compile statements made by Fox anchors and guests that the activists consider misleading, such as those that question global warming.
 
 Representatives for Fox News Channel, which is owned by News Corp., did not immediately return calls for comment.
 
 Home Depot has not had an unusual number of calls, said spokesman Jerry Shields, and the home improvement chain will not change its advertising strategy.
 
 "We're not in the business of censoring media," Shields said. "We need to reach our customer base through all mediums available."
 
 Groups like the Sierra Club have targeted Home Depot because they believe it's inconsistent for the company to promote environmentally friendly products while advertising on a network that has questioned global warming.
 
 The groups seem particularly angry at Fox's Bill O'Reilly, who has done critical reports on left-wing bloggers. On July 16, O'Reilly said the DailyKos.com Web site is "hate of the worst order," and sent a reporter to question JetBlue Airways Corp. CEO Dave Barger about the airline's sponsorship of a gathering run by DailyKos.
 
 He'll never ride on JetBlue again, O'Reilly said.
 
 MoveOn.org is campaigning against Fox because it says the network characterizes itself as a fair news network when it consistently favors a conservative point of view, said Adam Green, the organization's spokesman.
 
 "We're not trying to silence anybody," Green said. "Rush Limbaugh has a right to be on the air�he admits his point of view. Fox doesn't."
 
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 Give 'em hell FOX!!!
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 12:36 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Anyone who wants to is well within their rights to organize a boycott of any company they choose, for any reason they choose. It follows directly from the logic of a market economy. |  |  
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				|  Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 12:41 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| This is what happens when you so blatantly politicize a channel's programming.  I mean, if Fox were not designed to be a propaganda channel for the Republican Party, it would at least have some dissenting opinions.  I mean there's not even tension between libertarian conservatives and authoritarian conservatives because Fox is not simply a conservative channel, but its a GOP channel, so there's no dissent whatsoever. |  |  
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				|  Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 12:52 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | This is what happens when you so blatantly politicize a channel's programming. I mean, if Fox were not designed to be a propaganda channel for the Republican Party, it would at least have some dissenting opinions. I mean there's not even tension between libertarian conservatives and authoritarian conservatives because Fox is not simply a conservative channel, but its a GOP channel, so there's no dissent whatsoever. |  
 
 And a good majority of other media outlets to not cater to the left wing liberal nut jobs?
 
 The reason it seems that Fox is the way it is, is because they question what the others are doing...............deal with it.
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 1:17 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| i highly doubt dmb would agree with your political views mr. fan   
 
 
 
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	  | And a good majority of other media outlets to not cater to the left wing liberal nut jobs? |  
 Nope, not really. Unless mother jones=media outlet, then yes, you have a point.
 
 
 
 
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	  | The reason it seems that Fox is the way it is, is because they question what the others are doing...............deal with it. |  
 You make mr. murdoch a happy man.
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				|  Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 1:22 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | i highly doubt dmb would agree with your political views mr. fan 
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 And a good majority of other media outlets to not cater to the left wing liberal nut jobs?
 
 
 Nope, not really. Unless mother jones=media outlet, then yes, you have a point.
 
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 The reason it seems that Fox is the way it is, is because they question what the others are doing...............deal with it.
 
 
 You make mr. murdoch a happy man.
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 Um....I could care less about how Dave Matthews feels.  He is a known liberal, but I would not think he is a far left nut job...like quite a few people in this forum.
 
 But hey, everyone has an opinion, right?
 
 
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		| NAVFC 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 1:49 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | This is what happens when you so blatantly politicize a channel's programming.  I mean, if Fox were not designed to be a propaganda channel for the Republican Party, it would at least have some dissenting opinions.  I mean there's not even tension between libertarian conservatives and authoritarian conservatives because Fox is not simply a conservative channel, but its a GOP channel, so there's no dissent whatsoever. |  
 Umm I see disent on foxnews. Also, your saying the left wing channels arent bias? heh.
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				|  Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 3:49 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | This is what happens when you so blatantly politicize a channel's programming.  I mean, if Fox were not designed to be a propaganda channel for the Republican Party, it would at least have some dissenting opinions.  I mean there's not even tension between libertarian conservatives and authoritarian conservatives because Fox is not simply a conservative channel, but its a GOP channel, so there's no dissent whatsoever. |  
 Umm I see disent on foxnews. Also, your saying the left wing channels arent bias? heh.
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 To all those who have pointed out that there are left-wing biases out there, I would like to say, 'Well, no shit.'
 
 The point is that there are no other programs or channels so clearly hawking a pro-Democrat or anti-conservative viewpoint as starkly as Fox News promotes the Republican party or fights 'the liberal agenda.'
 
 NAVFC, your point of 'dissent' would be better taken if you showed me an example.  I rarely watch Fox News, so that may be why I haven't seen any.
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				|  Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 6:55 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | Kuros wrote: |  
	  | This is what happens when you so blatantly politicize a channel's programming.  I mean, if Fox were not designed to be a propaganda channel for the Republican Party, it would at least have some dissenting opinions.  I mean there's not even tension between libertarian conservatives and authoritarian conservatives because Fox is not simply a conservative channel, but its a GOP channel, so there's no dissent whatsoever. |  
 FOX has launched a Crusade against the Left in my opinion with their behaviour.   They have treated intellectuals terribly on its network from what I understand, and I mean treated them with so much disrespect, did not respect the concept of true fairness in letting people express their opinions.  I am not saying I am a fan of everything Movon does.   I think the American media whether it is CNN or FOX or the so-called Left and Right don't serve the American people and most Americans are tuning out, because too many people don't think highly of the news they are getting.  There's too much propaganda from the only two perspectives pretty much that we're getting, and it is getting so old.
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				|  Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 9:37 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Oh, you think so?  Ok........well ,this was taken from another poster. 
 
 
 
 
 
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	  | There has been a link on the Drudge Report the past couple of days that news reporters break 9-1 in favor of the left in their political giving. Of course, reporters don't have any personal bias when they report (that was sarcasm for you intellectually challenged among us). 
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 Whether you sample your news feed from ABC or CBS (or, yes, even NBC and MSNBC), whether you prefer Fox News Channel or National Public Radio, The Wall Street Journal or The New Yorker, some of the journalists feeding you are also feeding cash to politicians, parties or political action committees.
 
 MSNBC.com identified 144 journalists who made political contributions from 2004 through the start of the 2008 campaign, according to the public records of the Federal Election Commission. Most of the newsroom checkbooks leaned to the left: 125 journalists gave to Democrats and liberal causes. Only 17 gave to Republicans. Two gave to both parties.
 
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 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19113485
 
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 Oh, and lets not forget about two CNN anchormen going on the road and working for the Kerry campaign in 2004...........shhhhh!!!
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 12:14 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Alan Combs is one liberal on Fox News . 
 Anyway much of what Fox reports is raw news right off  the newswire.
 
 You have shows like Bill O'Reilly but does anyone really think he is hides his bias?
 
 and anyway doesn't MSNBC have Keith Oliberman and Chris Matthews ?
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				|  Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 12:33 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| What the liberal (temporarily for many) college kiddies at moveon and daily kos don't quite understand is that the majority of America IS conservative. 
 Politically it might break down 50-50, but the Democrats are a hodgepodge coalition of blacks, feminists, Jews, unionists, environmentalists, cosmopolitans, youth, and yes, liberals.
 
 A large percentage of blacks and unionists are conservative, they only vote for the Democrats out of perceived self-interest.  Similarly, many environmentalists are also conservative, but place their political allegiance with the Democrats.  And among the 85% of Jews who vote Democrat, many are also conservative, but they vote Democrat habitually, or they live in one-party areas (NYC, CHI, LA etc).
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				| Why watch Fox or CNN or MSNBC? Too lazy to read a newspaper? 
 I am equally sickened by the alphabet soup media channels. They spoon out crap and people are happy enough to lap it up. I say let them, their ignorance is sad but those easily led are no better than lemmings in my opinion.
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 9:01 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| And, FOX is not in the middle?!? 
 C'mon people...........they air "Geraldo on the Run"....or something like that.
 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 7:30 am    Post subject: Fairness in the Media?!? |   |  
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				| Every media outlet is biased. I was listening to MPR the other day and this man was on who said he was building a new media outlet to be called the independent news agency. He went on to say his goal was to offer balanced, objective news. And then he said he was a progressive liberal. Now how in the hell is he objective? This is the ignorance and condensation of the liberal mind at work. They have failed so miserabily in a market driven economy they have to make excuses and try and pass legistation to change the rules i.e Talk Radio. Anyone who soley relies on Faux news or the Communist News Network is a ignorant fool. Research the issues and stop listening to these left wing nut jobs who want to use the government to regulate what you see and hear. |  |  
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