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Bramble
Joined: 26 Jan 2007
Location: National treasures need homes
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| The Bobster wrote: |
| Bramble wrote: |
Where's your sense of humour?  |
In every post I've made on this thread. Where is yours? I've only seen insults from you.
That's your style, though. Notice that I've offered no insults in reply, only good advice. I suggest you listen to it. Stay away from me. |
Sorry, but you didn't stay away from me when I asked nicely, did you? I'll exercise my "freedom of speech" whenever I please, whether you like it or not. |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 12:47 am Post subject: |
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| blade wrote: |
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I'm using my friend's laptop right now and can't type in hanguel, but surely you do know that is is called bosintang or yeongyang tang, right?
Ask a random Korean in the street. Easy-peezy, correct?
And, surely your boss is Korean, and most of your co-workers are, right?
Easier to ask them, non? |
You do know how dogs are slaughtered right? The dogs are line up while one is basically skinned alive while the other dogs are made to watch so that flesh is apparently more tender.
I don't have any issues with eating dog per say, but I do have problem with animal cruelty. |
I saw a video where Koreans were picking out cocker spaniels, I even saw a shnauzer in a cage, a golden retriever. I was pretty appalled these are your North American and European style dogs people keep as pets. It is not simply so-called farm dogs just bred for being killed. In Korea, I understand it is illegal to kill a special breed of dog called "Chindo". Many foreigners are insisting I should try dog while dogs are beaten to get the adrenaline in their system... I can't fathom having a dog or a cat for a pet and then eating them.. |
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whatever
Joined: 11 Jun 2006
Location: Korea: More fun than jail.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 2:29 am Post subject: |
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Electrocuted, huh? Awesome.
Maybe Michael Vick will open up a restaurant here... |
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nautilus
Joined: 26 Nov 2005
Location: Je jump, Tu jump, oui jump!
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| Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 3:24 am Post subject: |
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Bosintang is everywhere...just look for the signs..
I might eat dog but I certainly wouldn't touch whalemeat. Dogs aren't on the verge of exitinction... |
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Homer
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| Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 3:27 am Post subject: |
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Whats the matter squat...your usual sewer hangout is not longer available?
As for your comments...keep preaching my man...it suits you well...now, pass the dog soup please.... |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 6:04 am Post subject: |
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| Homer wrote: |
Whats the matter squat...your usual sewer hangout is not longer available?
As for your comments...keep preaching my man...it suits you well...now, pass the dog soup please.... |
Did you know hanging a dog from a tree and beating it, so you can get the adrenaline into their body and they beat them alive to tenderize the meat? I also understand many electrocute dogs. Also, many Koreans do not eat dog and consider it appalling to eat dog, so it is a stereotype to say they eat it. To those with European ancestry, at least, the sons of the Cro-Magnons and Neanderthals dogs served us well in dangerous times to hunt beasts of burden. We owe them a serious debt, and because of their service to our ancestors and for saving soldiers in danger like the Newfoundland dog in Hong Kong I say "Thank you very much". I understand it is part of Chinese and Korean culture to eat dog, but I cannot stomach the idea of beating a dog to just get his adrenaline going or hanging the dog and beating him and sometimes the dogs are burned while still alive to tenderize the meat. If they simply ate dog without the hanging, electrocution, I would give much less thought to it and dismiss it to all being culturally relative, but I understand many Koreans are against this and oppose this vigorously. |
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The Bobster
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Bramble wrote: |
| The Bobster wrote: |
| Bramble wrote: |
| Where's your sense of humour? |
In every post I've made on this thread. Where is yours? I've only seen insults from you.
That's your style, though. Notice that I've offered no insults in reply, only good advice. I suggest you listen to it. Stay away from me. |
Sorry, but you didn't stay away from me when I asked nicely, did you? I'll exercise my "freedom of speech" whenever I please, whether you like it or not. |
Actually, I did, and I've shown in the past how casually you lie. And how about providing some actual content to discussions, instead of this stalking behavior?
Got nothing against dogs, red, blue, green, whatever color, but there are SOME animals that need to just go away. This cute little kitten? It's carrying anthrax, dosed by the evil North Koreans and sent over the DMZ by Doctor Evil up there. When that land mine goes off in 2 seconds I will not cry. I will advocate the fiery death of any number of cute kittens to protect the way of life we all hold dear.
Seriously, though, anyone who wants to know a good place to eat "dog food,' as the wife calls it, go ahead and pm me if you're not very far from Yoido, or if you don't mind traveling ...  |
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The_Conservative
Joined: 15 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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| it's still a slow painful death. |
It wouldn't kill you to be less ignorant. (It takes 4 seconds with Google.) Modern slaughterhouses render the animal unconscious first. |
It wouldn't kill you to actually Google. And the New York Times disagrees with you. This is a site which took its information (regarding slaughterhouses....scroll down to the heading slaughterhouses) from the NYT.
"many [cows] who are still fully conscious with eyes wide open when skinned and cut apart."
So yes slaughterhouses will tell you that their meat is killed humanely. However the NYT and other newspapers over the years have run quite a number of exposes on the practises that go on (and still do on a regular basis. Being skinned and cut apart is every bit as bad as what happens to a dog.
And let's not even get into chickens and pigs and other animals that we eat....
Educate yourself and stop clinging to ignorance. |
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luvnpeas
Joined: 03 Aug 2006
Location: somewhere i have never travelled
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| Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 1:18 am Post subject: |
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| The_Conservative wrote: |
| luvnpeas wrote: |
| The_Conservative wrote: |
| it's still a slow painful death. |
It wouldn't kill you to be less ignorant. (It takes 4 seconds with Google.) Modern slaughterhouses render the animal unconscious first. |
It wouldn't kill you to actually Google. And the New York Times disagrees with you. This is a site which took its information (regarding slaughterhouses....scroll down to the heading slaughterhouses) from the NYT.
"many [cows] who are still fully conscious with eyes wide open when skinned and cut apart." |
That's from an advertisement in the New York Times.
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| ... the NYT and other newspapers over the years have run quite a number of exposes on the practises that go on (and still do on a regular basis. |
lol
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| Educate yourself and stop clinging to ignorance. |
Indeed. |
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squat toilet
Joined: 08 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 8:33 am Post subject: |
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| Homer wrote: |
Whats the matter squat...your usual sewer hangout is not longer available?
As for your comments...keep preaching my man...it suits you well...now, pass the dog soup please.... |
The fact that a guy like you is so pro dog consumption only strengthens my resolve sister. See, for me this issue is light years beyond slaughtering practices of animals in the west and the hypocrisy therein. If someone is against it, by all means stop eating beef, pork, chicken, etc. It still doesn't mean eating dog is right. God knows I dated enough vegetarians and vegans in my day and have heard the rhetoric. Oh yes, i've heard and seen it all. Nah, to me this is about holding on to the principles that made me who i am PRE-KOREA. I don't push people on the subway, I don't go to room salons/pay for ass and yes, I REFUSE to eat dog...why?...because all these twisted practices just solidify the importance of the lessons learned while i was growing up. Doing something like eating dog (something which, as an aside, most locals are against) is a slap in the face to those billowy memories of backyard barbeques and playing catch with my dad that made senior squat toilet was he is today...and god forbid some insular, close minded adjossi who thinks the practice of torturing dogs makes his little worm wiener stand at attention for an additional 8 seconds before plowing into some 18 year old tabang agassi while his wife and 3 kids wait anxiously at home for his return, is gonna change who i am and what i'm about.
What's that saying? Something like "that's the brand of ignorance only a higher eduction can breed." Guys who endlessly find references to justify their <fed> "opinions" and try so damn hard to be openminded about anything and everything that they dilute and whitewash the things that REALLY matter only to wake up one day in a cold sweat; air loudly whistling through their triskety, bulbous nose on their jiggly, spammy, pasty face to realize that they have no touchstone - nothing but ambiguous, wishywashy bullsh*t that they've swallowed down like a 2 cent *beep* at an all you can eat sperm butter eating contest as they throw on their hanbok to run to the latrine with their cellulite riddled, pockmarked ass rolling and bouncing in their wake. All the same, I think I'll forge ahead and stick with substantial, empirical truths I've learned during my 30 years on this planet any ol' day instead of relying on the good word of Koreans and Google.com.
Oh, and Last time i checked there was no such creature as a "seeing eye pig", "police pig" or "drug sniffing pig." Besides finding truffles and spreading swine fever to humans, what fucking good are pigs anyways? Well, besides smelling damn good on the frying pan at 7am every sunday. |
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The Bobster
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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| squat toilet wrote: |
| Oh, and Last time i checked there was no such creature as a "seeing eye pig", "police pig" or "drug sniffing pig." . |
Forget to feed Fido for two or three weeks, know what? Fido will eat you. It's just a fact of nature. Love the critters, but all the times I like to rassle on the carpet and even stick my hand in the dude's mouth, I know what I know and what the canine companion also knows : this friendship is conditional.
Dogs are cool. Love 'em, every hour of every day. But I'm realistic. Sometimes they they bite, you know. Sometimes they bite hard. They're not angels, and sometimes they kill, and afterwards they don't don't even agonize to their girlfriends about it. It's just the way they are made.
You can refuse to eat bosingtang for any reason you want, but don't try to tell us that it's cuz dogs dropped down from heaven or something. THAT never happened.
As Morpheus said in that epic poem we know as The Matrix : Do you want the red pill or do you want the blue pill? I choose the red pill, every time it's offered. How about you? |
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luvnpeas
Joined: 03 Aug 2006
Location: somewhere i have never travelled
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| Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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Oh, The Conservative didn't actually give a Web site in his reference to a Web site. In case anybody is wondering, here is what he represented as a New York Times expose.
"Transcript of New York Times full page ad published June 22, 2001 detailing the horrors of our modern-day slaughterhouses. With 309-330 cows per hour coming by on the "disassembly" line, there are many who are still fully conscious with eyes wide open when skinned and cut apart. They die literally piece by piece."
http://www.organicconsumers.org/foodsafety/shortlist031604.cfm |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea
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| Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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You seem to be assuming that dogs and cattle are comparable. |
Oh, I shouldn't do this, but I have to comment on this comment atleast.
No, dogs and cattle aren't comparable. Cattle are actually considered sacred by a very significant portion of the human population, while dogs are just considered friends and family (or less). Hence the callous cattle slaughter by fast food chains is actually worse in the eyes of several hundred million people than eating dog killed in a humane manner (not through torture ofcourse).
Only a pure vegetarian is capable of arguing against eating dog without being hypocritical. Arguing about the torture of dogs is a different thing though, as that practice should be stopped. |
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Been There, Taught That
Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Mungyeong: not a village, not yet a metroplex.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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As someone commented here several miles of back-and-forth ago, the OP asked where, not why, how, yes, no, etc. I know dog meat, cat juice, frog legs, porcupine quills, shark fins/crab legs/jellyfish, pork of all kinds, etc is simple unclean meat and for good medical reasons; you know it's immoral, sick, weird, deviant, nice, good and all-around tasty to indulge in whatever you choose and to each his own or not.
Sorry, that's just me trying to keep things on task. My last post here went a little deviant, I know, but, after all, the topic is a magnet for opinion. However, this thread can only keep going in the same ever-deepening Dante-esque circles if it keeps going this way. |
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luvnpeas
Joined: 03 Aug 2006
Location: somewhere i have never travelled
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| Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Been There, Taught That wrote: |
| However, this thread can only keep going in the same ever-deepening Dante-esque circles if it keeps going this way. |
You could substitute "this discussion board" for "this thread" with no loss of accuracy. Nonetheless, the beat goes on.
There is nothing inherently non-constructive about the topic or its tangents. It is perfectly natural to pursue side-topics in civilized discussion, and the way dogs are killed is a natural spinoff from the topic of eating dogs. If this discussion were occurring between some friends, say, sitting around having a beer, nobody would complain that the THE FIRST PERSON TO BRING IT UP ONLY ASKED WHERE NOT HOW and call those who object to torturing dogs self-righteous and hypocritical. |
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