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[Alyallen]

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Does the NAACP and their ilk conside the gangsta thug who plead out for a deal to be racist?

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I vote "C".

edit: scrolling back up, I may have responded to the wrong set of questions.

In my experience, it largely depends on the parenting.

Nonetheless, I have been to a place where there was a racial mix of perpetrators of violence, perversion, sociopathic behavior, drug use, and blasphemy.

My perseverance during this time of suffering resulted in my being awarded an honorary university diploma.

I was one of the lucky ones. The others still live in my darkest dreams.

[Smee]

Didn't read all the posts. Just seems to me that the race angle has been cooked up by the media. (Maybe my perspective would be different were I in Atlanta, though). The NAACP are late entries into this issue, and the race issue didn't come up---in the articles I read---until last week, after training camp opened.

Thankfully, most people seem to recognize how disingenuous the NAACP is in this, and that race most certainly isn't an issue here.

I want to hijack this thread a little. There's a sports call-in show on KDKA TV in Pittsburgh. One of the panelists, a writer for the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, was making a point that perhaps people ought to pay more attention to the violence done by athletes to fellow humans (Pacman Jones, Jason Kidd, Jason Williams, etc.). This is what he said:

[Alyallen]

Here's another article about the whole Michael Vick and his supporter and detracters...yadda yadda yadda. This article talks a bit more about his hometown and the county where the alleged dogfighting took place. Interesting stuff I suppose....Still makes relatively little difference to me since I'm a Packer's fan...

Race factors into Vick case

By DIONNE WALKER, Associated Press Writer Fri Aug 3, 4:24 PM ET

RICHMOND, Va. - The difference between those sporting Michael Vick jerseys and those urging his swift conviction on dogfighting charges is glaring: Vick's supporters are mostly black; his critics are mostly white.

The racial divide emerged early in the case against the Atlanta Falcons quarterback, apparent at rallies filled with cheering � and overwhelmingly black � Vick supporters and at anti-Vick protests that are noticeably white.

Vick's opponents say the evidence against him is overwhelming. For many black supporters, that judgment evokes uncomfortable questions about race and guilt in America.

"White folks 'been grindin' on an ax ... and that ax ain't got sharp enough for them," said Earnest Hardy Sr., who called the case a witch hunt targeting a successful black man.

Hardy's Surry County home borders Vick's property, where an April raid turned up evidence of dogfighting. Federal authorities indicted Vick on dogfighting charges, and he faces jail time and fines. He has pleaded not guilty.

In the rural county split 50-50 between whites and blacks, the case quickly took a racial bent. At the county courthouse, angry letters urged that whites "take back their town." Critics accuse the commonwealth's attorney, Gerald Poindexter, of stalling an investigation to protect one of his own.

"The only thing I'm doing is protecting my personal integrity and protecting the integrity of the office," said Poindexter, who is black. "I'm not going to be pushed into bringing charges that won't stand."

Hardy spotted Surry's racial divisions long ago � in the farmland developers are sweeping up and selling at prices working-class folks can't afford, and in the new neighbors who don't look like him.

Hardy suspects that Vick � famous, rich and black � is just the fall guy behind bigger issues.

"A hundred-million-dollar black man?" he huffed. "They can't stand it."

His view is reflected from the Newport News region where Vick was raised to Atlanta, where a rally supporting the former Virginia Tech standout drew several hundred fans, but barely 50 whites, said Gerald Rose, with Atlanta-based New Order National Human Rights Organization.

Rose said the outcry stems from what he said is Vick's premature conviction in the media � not support for dogfighting. But he said the case also awakens anger over a perceived smear campaign targeting famous black men from Kobe Bryant to Michael Jackson.

He argues black men who stumble draw excessive scrutiny and especially harsh public judgment.

"It's been too many cases involving African-Americans (where) they got through the court of law, they've been found not guilty, but damage has been done," Rose said.

Vick and two co-defendants are scheduled to stand trial Nov. 26. The Southern Christian Leadership Conference plans to recognize Vick at its annual convention, which began Friday in Atlanta.

"We're in support of Michael as a human being," SCLC president Charles Steele said. "Right now, he's feeling discarded, ostracized by people who are rushing to judgment. It's our responsibility to save him."

Tempers flared at Vick's July 26 arraignment in Richmond, where outside the courthouse blacks and whites debated everything from animal rights to slavery.

"It's racial profiling," said Bill Brown, a Richmond store owner who held a sign urging Vick's fair treatment. "We're always trying to brush everything up under the rug when it comes to racial things."

People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, leader of the most vocal Vick protests, says the issue isn't racial.

"We're reacting very strongly to this case because Michael Vick is someone who's a hero ... If this were Peyton Manning or Brett Favre, we'd be out there," spokesman Dan Shannon said.

Both NFL quarterbacks are white.

Vick's case is a "crack in the dam" of American racial tension, explained Jeff Menzise, assistant director of the Race Relations Institute at Fisk University in Tennessee.

Whites, he said, may have underlying anger at blacks they feel constantly play the race card. Blacks, meanwhile, may feel whites rush to judge black suspects, but are more lenient to white ones, Menzise said. A case like Vick's offers a vent for those frustrations.

"When you dam up a river, any crack in that dam and every drop of water is going to try and get out," he said.

Menzise said blacks may despise dogfighting but support Vick as a figure of black success in a society in which there are relatively few.

At his Richmond clothing store, Brown said he'll continue stocking Vick merchandise, though others have pulled it from shelves. He likened black support for Vick's cause to the support for O.J. Simpson's acquittal.

"Black people didn't care about O.J.," he said. "But we felt like we finally won."

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Norfolk correspondent Sonja Barisic contributed to this report.

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