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Alias · Joined: 24 Jan 2003

[quote]Army medical examiners were suspicious about the close proximity of the three bullet holes in Pat Tillman�s forehead and tried without success to get authorities to investigate whether the former NFL player�s death amounted to a crime, according to documents obtained by The Associated Press.

�The medical evidence did not match up with the, with the scenario as described,� a doctor who examined Tillman�s body after he was killed on the battlefield in Afghanistan in 2004 told investigators.

The doctors - whose names were blacked out - said that the bullet holes were so close together that it appeared the Army Ranger was cut down by an M-16 fired from a mere 10 yards or so away.

Ultimately, the Pentagon did conduct a criminal investigation, and asked Tillman�s comrades whether he was disliked by his men and whether they had any reason to believe he was deliberately killed. The Pentagon eventually ruled that Tillman�s death at the hands of his comrades was a friendly-fire accident.

The medical examiners� suspicions were outlined in 2,300 pages of testimony released to the AP this week by the Defense Department in response to a Freedom of Information Act request.

Among other information contained in the documents:

*In his last words moments before he was killed, Tillman snapped at a panicky comrade under fire to shut up and stop �sniveling.�

*Army attorneys sent each other congratulatory e-mails for keeping criminal investigators at bay as the Army conducted an internal friendly-fire investigation that resulted in administrative, or non-criminal, punishments.

*The three-star general who kept the truth about Tillman�s death from his family and the public told investigators some 70 times that he had a bad memory and couldn�t recall details of his actions.

*No evidence at all of enemy fire was found at the scene - no one was hit by enemy fire, nor was any government equipment struck.

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/07/27/2819/

yushin · Joined: 14 Oct 2006

not murdered but "fragged" by all accounts he was a real a**hole!

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Hollywoodaction · Joined: 02 Jul 2004

"The doctors - whose names were blacked out - said that the bullet holes were so close together that it appeared the Army Ranger was cut down by an M-16 fired from a mere 10 yards or so away. "

10 yards can be quite far in some situations, actually.

Don Gately · Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 11:11 am Post subject:

Hollywoodaction · Joined: 02 Jul 2004

Adventurer · Joined: 28 Jan 2006

It doesn't matter what kind of attitude Tillman had. Many people have bad attitudes in war or in tough situations. We aren't talking about a vacation in Oahu, Hawaii. We're talking about Afghanistan. War is brutal. It appears someone shot him from close range. Was it intentional? I don't know, but you can tell what a U.S. military uniform looks like from 10 yards since it's pretty close. There seems to be a cover up since we don't know who shot at Tillman. Why is that?
Why isn't that person being question? What on Earth is going on?

Alias · Joined: 24 Jan 2003

Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee · Joined: 25 May 2003

I'm With You · Joined: 01 Sep 2011

I just did a search and found this thread and so I realize it's now old. Well, I just watched "The Tillman Story" this morning and what I heard is quite shocking, but maybe not surprising for some who don't have much faith in the government.

I recommend anyone who is interested bu not yet seen this to definitely check it out.

rollo · Joined: 10 May 2006 Location: China

Thee were revolts in the trenches in wwI. I am sure officers were killed.

But I dont think there is any way to get an answer in the Tillman case.

men with guns , lots of panic and adrenaline, grudges, a scary mixture.

The William Calley case after the My lai massacre some army officerswere incensed that Calley was convicted , because they thought from the reports that the men had gone out of control and that Calley in no way could call them off and stop the killings and if he had tried would have been killed himself.

War is dangerous.

So Sincere · Joined: 04 Apr 2011

Have any of you read the book about Tillman's life and military service? I did, and for me at least, as an admirer of Tillman's perspective and courage, it closed the door on the whole situation.

Some key points according to Where Men Win Glory..

1. Tillman was killed by friendly fire during combat with the enemy.
2. The solider who shot Tillman was firing uphill, confused by the direction of an incoming enemy attack, with an obstructed view of his target.
3. The government/military created this problem by trying to cover up the entire incident.
4. PAT TILLMAN NEVER WANTED SPECIAL RECOGNITION/TREATMENT.

I'm With You · Joined: 01 Sep 2011