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		Keepongoing
 
 
  Joined: 13 Feb 2003 Location: Korea
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				 Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 1:00 pm    Post subject: Grading | 
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				It  is  not  my  favorite thing!  It  stresses  me  out.  We  must  grade  so the  average  is  between  82-85  for  all  classes  combined.  That  is  hard  if  you  have a  very  small  class  with  great  students.  Then  we  have  a  ton  of  paperwork  to  submit  after  finals.  This  is  at  University   level.  In  speaking  classes  this  can be  quite  subjective  and  even  in  writing  classes  at  times.  To  go  by  a  strict  rubric would  be  a  nightmare as  you  still  need to  stay  within the  average.  Also,  I  find that  a  "B"  is  not  considered a  good  grade here.  In  my  Uni  years,  a  "B"  was  good  to  get.   Students  here  compare their  grades  and  if theirs  is a  90  and  someone  else  got a  94,   they  are  not  pleased.  A  hard  earned  "B"  in the  States  is  something to  feel  good  about,  except  maybe  in  grad  school  where  I  had  to  maintain  a  3.  average.  
 
 
ANother  interesting  note  about  grad  school was  that  on  graduation  day  we  had a  party  and  talked  about  our  Prof's  and  everyone  agreed  that  the  hardcore "hard to  get a  "B"  profs"  were  better  than the  easy "A"  ones.  It  seems  quite  different here.
 
 
Anyway,  this  post  is  kind  of  2  related  subjects,  but  I  did  not  want to  write  2  posts,  so  just  comment where  you  wish. | 
			 
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		tob55
 
 
  Joined: 29 Apr 2007
 
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				 Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 1:39 pm    Post subject: the rules... | 
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				| The rules of grading in Korea are much different for many people when having to fit everyone into the passing category. It is somewhat disheartening to be forced to issue a B or an A to someone who can hardly put five English words together into a functional sentence. However, we work with the system we have been introduced to, with slight modifications when we can get them in. It may be that your only control in the grading of students is to use what you mentioned regarding the percentage variations, especially when you have students in your classes who see no reason for learning English, and it shows in their classroom behavior and attitude... | 
			 
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		Zark
 
  
  Joined: 12 May 2003 Location: Phuket, Thailand: Look into my eyes . . .
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				 Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 3:35 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				The university I taught at had similar rules - in fact when you entered grades in the computer it would erase all of them at the end if you didn't get it right!
 
 
I put it on the school - they, after all, came up with the rule.  The first few classes of the year, at midterm and at final exam time, I would very clearly explain to the students how the grading system worked.  I even pointed out that if you have a 92, you might still get a "C" - if it was a particularly sharp class.
 
 
Being quite open about the system, I felt, took a lot of pressure off of me.  That and good notes and a fairly objective scoring system in which I gave them their grades in points for everything all semester long.  Never had a complaint with it. | 
			 
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