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The Perfect Cup of Coffee
Joined: 17 Jun 2007
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The ROK government ought to hand over negotiations to the North Koreans. That government is masterful in getting so much for giving up so little. I can imagine some DPRK general discussing border issues with his ROK counterpart right now and doing everything he can to bite his tongue and not scream out:
"WTF! Dude! You south idiots have totally f*cked up this Taliban thing! Haven't you learned anything from 50+ years of negotiating with us?!" |
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TECO
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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Koda Shosei, in 2004, rode a public bus into Iraq just for kicks.
Iraqi insurgents cut his head off.
Koizumi said that the Self-Defence Forces would not withdraw or negotiate with the insurgents / terrorists.
Japanese don't tend to negotiate - unlike, say, the Chinese. |
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Vicissitude
Joined: 27 Feb 2007
Location: Chef School
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| Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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| TECO wrote: |
Japanese don't tend to negotiate - unlike, say, the Chinese. |
Japanese will not negotiate with people they don't respect or at least consider to be on equal footing. However, they will negotiate in business matters and they are masters are getting what they want (without making concessions).
Japanese will not negotiate with idiots to save their own who acted like idiots because to do so would also make them look like idiots. |
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koon_taung_daeng
Joined: 28 Jan 2007
Location: south korea
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| Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 5:21 am Post subject: |
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| The Korean government is showing their true colors now,they are being such *beep*'s asking that America help persuade Afghanistan to give into terrorists demands so that these idiot Christians could go home.How many americans were kidnapped and beheaded because america wouldint give into terrorism.Why does korea think we would change our policy for them? just send in some special forces and whipe out all of the terrorists. use this as a lesson to not let any missionaries into that country. |
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Ilsanman
Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea
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| Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 5:46 am Post subject: |
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I hope for 2 things.
#1 The Koreans can come home unharmed.
#2 I hope they are punished hard. Jail time sounds sufficient.
They have basically aided terrorists because they are too thick to listen to rules. That is Korean culture. |
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cangel
Joined: 19 Jun 2003
Location: Jeonju, S. Korea
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| Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 6:17 am Post subject: |
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| A young Japanese backpacker named Shosei Koda was relieved of his head by Iraqi insurgents wanting the Japanese to remove their troops from Iraq and, of course, the Japanese wouldn't. |
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charlieDD
Joined: 16 Jun 2006
Location: Seoul, Korea
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| Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 8:31 am Post subject: |
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| cangel wrote: |
| A young Japanese backpacker named Shosei Koda was relieved of his head by Iraqi insurgents wanting the Japanese to remove their troops from Iraq and, of course, the Japanese wouldn't. |
And they didn't appeal to "the international community" to be "lenient" in its dealings with terrorist organizations, nor blame it all on America and hold flag burning demonstrations to vent frustration and displace the blame. They maintained their dignity. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 8:39 am Post subject: |
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I dunno Japan didn't do anything when someone went to Japan and killed the Japanese translator of the Satanic Versus.
Cough
Iran. |
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Leavingkorea
Joined: 27 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:55 am Post subject: |
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| Vicissitude wrote: |
| Japanese do not make concessions when they negotiate, especially in business matters. They are famous for this. In Japanese culture, making concessions shows weakness, which is something to avoid at all costs. |
Says the Hogwan teacher who's never sat at a negotiation table.  < do they make those any bigger? |
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Vicissitude
Joined: 27 Feb 2007
Location: Chef School
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| Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Leavingkorea wrote: |
| Vicissitude wrote: |
| Japanese do not make concessions when they negotiate, especially in business matters. They are famous for this. In Japanese culture, making concessions shows weakness, which is something to avoid at all costs. |
Says the Hogwan teacher who's never sat at a negotiation table. < do they make those any bigger? |
BTW, I'm not a hogwan teacher. I'm not even in Korea. So you know what you can do with your stupid little eye roll don't ya?
As a matter of a fact, I've sat at plenty of negotiation tables and with people from all over the world. Oh and when I was in Korea I got a hell of a lot more out of my employers than all of my Korea lifer colleagues and 5 plus year veterans. |
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The Perfect Cup of Coffee
Joined: 17 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Vicissitude wrote: |
| Leavingkorea wrote: |
| Vicissitude wrote: |
| Japanese do not make concessions when they negotiate, especially in business matters. They are famous for this. In Japanese culture, making concessions shows weakness, which is something to avoid at all costs. |
Says the Hogwan teacher who's never sat at a negotiation table. < do they make those any bigger? |
BTW, I'm not a hogwan teacher. I'm not even in Korea. So you know what you can do with your stupid little eye roll don't ya?
As a matter of a fact, I've sat at plenty of negotiation tables and with people from all over the world. Oh and when I was in Korea I got a hell of a lot more out of my employers than all of my Korea lifer colleagues and 5 plus year veterans. |
So says the "not a hagwon teacher" who's "not even in Korea" trolling a forum written mostly by hagwon teachers living in Korea. |
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Vicissitude
Joined: 27 Feb 2007
Location: Chef School
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| Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 1:01 am Post subject: |
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| The Perfect Cup of Coffee wrote: |
| Vicissitude wrote: |
| Leavingkorea wrote: |
| Vicissitude wrote: |
| Japanese do not make concessions when they negotiate, especially in business matters. They are famous for this. In Japanese culture, making concessions shows weakness, which is something to avoid at all costs. |
Says the Hogwan teacher who's never sat at a negotiation table. < do they make those any bigger? |
BTW, I'm not a hogwan teacher. I'm not even in Korea. So you know what you can do with your stupid little eye roll don't ya?
As a matter of a fact, I've sat at plenty of negotiation tables and with people from all over the world. Oh and when I was in Korea I got a hell of a lot more out of my employers than all of my Korea lifer colleagues and 5 plus year veterans. |
So says the "not a hagwon teacher" who's "not even in Korea" trolling a forum written mostly by hagwon teachers living in Korea. |
Nooo, so says the use-to-be hogwon teacher[/i ] who [i]was in Korea visiting a forum written by many former hogwon teacher who use to live in Korea. |
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The Perfect Cup of Coffee
Joined: 17 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 3:19 am Post subject: |
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You forgot to add who's also sat at plenty of negotiation tables and with people from all over the world. Oh and when I was in Korea I got a hell of a lot more out of my employers than all of my Korea lifer colleagues and 5 plus year veterans.
Just a heads up, negotiating a new contract at ECC hardly qualifies one as some kind of expert on Japanese negotiating strategies and tactics. Yeah, we've all read Musashi and Sun Tzu, but come on, an extra 100K won a month isn't big-league negotiating: it's called asking for a raise. |
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Vicissitude
Joined: 27 Feb 2007
Location: Chef School
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| Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 8:22 am Post subject: |
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| The Perfect Cup of Coffee wrote: |
You forgot to add who's also sat at plenty of negotiation tables and with people from all over the world. Oh and when I was in Korea I got a hell of a lot more out of my employers than all of my Korea lifer colleagues and 5 plus year veterans.
Just a heads up, negotiating a new contract at ECC hardly qualifies one as some kind of expert on Japanese negotiating strategies and tactics. Yeah, we've all read Musashi and Sun Tzu, but come on, an extra 100K won a month isn't big-league negotiating: it's called asking for a raise. |
Why don't you come on over and I'll buy you a real cup of coffee for a change. Be my guest.
Clearly you have no idea what your are talking about with regards to my past experience. Please allow me to enlighten you. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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a piss fest! yes!
hyping yourself up on a chat board=smooth. |
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