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Why do so many jobs suck?

 
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jajdude



Joined: 18 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:11 pm    Post subject: Why do so many jobs suck? Reply with quote

I'm sure you have some ideas.
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Jun Lee



Joined: 20 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because Jobs are what you have to do to survive. Confused

Careers are what you choose to do to live the way you want. Very Happy
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Unposter



Joined: 04 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sado-masochism?
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Richard Krainium



Joined: 12 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 3:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Literally or figuratively??? Laughing
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The Perfect Cup of Coffee



Joined: 17 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Generally? You're basically trading the one thing in your life (time) you can't get back in exchange for pieces of paper so you can buy sh*t you don't really need. (Personally guilty of this one. Although I must say at least living here I can pay cash rather than use credit like back in my home country.)

ESL jobs in Korea? Part A: see above. Part B: Too many noobs who come over here without doing the proper research and believe everything the recruiters/schools tell 'em about taking the first job that offers them 2.0 million won a month.
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Zark



Joined: 12 May 2003
Location: Phuket, Thailand: Look into my eyes . . .

PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HUGE cultural differences about:

1. Expectations in the workplace,

2. The meaning of contracts

3. Employee/employer relationships and respect.

Other than that . . . no problem.
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zark wrote:
HUGE cultural differences about:

1. Expectations in the workplace,

2. The meaning of contracts

3. Employee/employer relationships and respect.

Other than that . . . no problem.


Exactly. The scum I worked for in Incheon had the perfect opportunity to learn how to manage a business--she was married to a retired ISO certifier! It just never occurred to her that a business should be run competently. She was more concerned with skimming from all of her employees, avoiding paying taxes to the government, and just being generally dishonest. Had she bothered to ask her husband a couple of basic questions and tried running the place honestly, she would've made more money in the first place and not have gotten fined in the end.
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willneverteachagain



Joined: 17 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

because people keep signing the contracts
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ella



Joined: 17 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exactly, willneverteachagain. They only get away with what we let them get away with.
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jlb



Joined: 18 Sep 2003

PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

willneverteachagain wrote:
because people keep signing the contracts


Agreed. People are stupid.
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Been There, Taught That



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Mungyeong: not a village, not yet a metroplex.

PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jun Lee wrote:
Because Jobs are what you have to do to survive. Confused

Careers are what you choose to do to live the way you want. Very Happy

I am going to thnk of the OP's question as taking in all jobs, not just Korea English education-related. That's because a job, by definition, whether paid or not, is a thing ya "gotta do"; a task that gets something accomplished, and nobody necessarily welcomes that kind of thing. Especially when you do it to make money, the only thing you really want is to find some easier way to, for instance, make money. So a job is work, and making money at it makes us more willing to do it, but nothing elevates it above the status of work.

A career is almost in another category. While a job is a necessary part of life, a career is a desired situation of which our lives become a part. It becomes our identity. Everything we are goes into our career, and even our family deals with us as a player in it, and makes it their concern, also. A career makes us memorable beyond and despite the money we make doing it; societally, it gives us obvious value, and the only thing we want is a more valuable way to apply our training, skills and knowledge.

That's the ideal, anyway.

So does your time and energy in Korea fit the title of this post?
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Unposter



Joined: 04 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

words shmerds. Tomato toemato. Work occupation. Who cares? It is all a state of mind. Either you like to work or you don't. Either you like your work or you don't.

I think the OP means why do Korean bosses seem to make things more difficult than they have to. Of course, only the OP knows what he really means.

I go with the boredom factor. They have to look like they are doing soemthing. They would just be bored raking in the money from your sweat and labor and funny clown tricks. So they wake up in the morning full of new ideas to try, sudden complaints, re-arranged schedules, new teaching styles, new textbooks, new classes, all sorts of pointers on how you can teach better even though they have never observed your class, etc...

Or it could just be Sado-masochism. A person becomes a hakwon manager because they enjoy making whitey annoyed or a person works at a hakwon because they have an unconscious wish to believe their lives are unfair, like one of those country-western songs. I guess it could be something completely different...

Why can't the world be sweeter? Why can't we live in a world of peaches and cream? Or chocolate sundaes? Or where the water tastes like wine? Where is our heaven on earth?

We just live and work in Korea...sigh.
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starbright



Joined: 03 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 2:47 pm    Post subject: jobs Reply with quote

My friend got a good job from this new recruiter. They are good. Here's the link http://www.esljobskorea.com
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