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[Alyallen]

[ChimpumCallao]

[Big_Bird]

[ChimpumCallao]

[Big_Bird]

Well, call me cynical, but another reason those stories aren't dwelt on, even if they're reported, is that the powers that be aren't interested. What's been going on in the Congo, with regard to rapes and sexual mutilations, has just been mind blowing and sickening. But as we don't have enough interests in the Congo, the big companies that own the media aren't too bothered. Read ZNet or Counterpunch if you want to know about these kinds of crimes and attrocities, the big papers aren't interested. Same as they were not interested when Saddam and co were gassing Kurds in the 80s. Only became of interest in retrospect, when it was convenient as another tool to whip up support for a war we didn't need to have.

[ChimpumCallao]

Ok...but how would you explain all the liberal namby pamby benefit concerts, all the talk of 'saving' Africa, and all the attention placed on POVERTY in Africa by celebrities and those who want a quick soundbite? AFRICA IS ALLOVER THE MEDIA. Live Aid? Angelina Jolie flapping her big ass mouth about the rights of African children. She speaks of the right to water, never the right to not have a giant cAck shoved up your 3 month old orifice. Why? I mean, there is an obvious value judgement to be made here. Raping babies is worse than pretty much anything else in the world.

THey are obviously paying attention and are encouraging more to lend a hand, become aware, what have you. But I have never heard a PEEP about the atrocities being commnited against African women and children by African men. NEVER.

Why dont THEY speak out about these atrocities? Why do they just throw out the povertyAIDSchildrenDarfur line and then ignore the rest of the even more horrific things going on? This is going on accross the board with EVERY SINGLE PERSON who has a voice about Africa- mostly celebutards, of course.

Africa is WIDELY discussed and WIDELY talked about. Why is Bono and all those other 'activists' for Africa not going deeper? I really think they are walking on eggshells for fear that other think they are criticising too harshly, speaking out of place , or being ethnocentric or racist.

[Big_Bird]

Well, I've been hearing about these kind of sexual attrocities for years, but that's because I tend to read a lot of the 'liberal namby pamby' literature out there.

You raise an interesting question though, why isn't there more focus on these crimes? I can only speculate that the answer might be we have to choose our battles, and maybe the more important fight is first to make sure people have food to eat and are free of disease. I also think that most men, and many women too, underestimate the horror of sexual assault - or it might have been minimised in our communities by now. I also suspect people may feel they can help provide food and medicine by donating money, but they don't know how to go about preventing sexual assault in far away countries.

[Alyallen]

[ChimpumCallao]

[Big_Bird]

Well, I've been hearing about the prevalence of sex crimes in Africa since the 90s, so I don't know what newspapers you read. I tend to read The Guardian, The Independent and Le Monde - as well as whatever Murdoch publication is floating about in the particular part of the English speaking world I might be residing in. I also read a few fringe media outlets, the most famous of which are probaby Znet and Counterpunch. This information is out there. For whatever reason, it is not out there enough. I've found generally, people aren't that much interested in the misfortunes of others, whether they be Westerners, Chinese or whatever, they tend to be mostly interested in their own affairs.

It's also a hell of a thing to go about tackling. What do you propose Bono does? He's only got X amount of money and good will. How should he direct it? Saving lives or dealing with violence? He's got to deal with issues like food and medicine first. You have to pick your battles. Also, if he publicising these crimes, there may be a tendency for much of the public to say "Oh these Africans are barbarians, just like animals! " and feel less sympathy for them, and less inclined to hand their money over to Bono.

How do you propose Bono acts on this information. What programme/plan of action can you suggest to wipe out sexual assualt in Africa?

[ChimpumCallao]

You are missing the point. I am not speaking of a blueprint to give to Bono or whoever. I am trying to understand the reasons behind the fact that those with a voice NEVER bring up the more disgusting aspects of the problems in Africa. There are many reason, but "they have to tackle poverty first" isnt really one of them. Plus, Bono and CO can do the same thing they do about their pet causes. TALK ABOUT THEM.

edit: and ALLL people in the public eye think the same? They ALLL think poverty is the main issue in Africa? They should ALLL focus on poverty? Why? Why isn't there a bit of variety?

Plus, I dont think people are so cruel so as to think children and women who are victims of rape are underserving of aid. People are generally very generous, especially in the first world. I dont think that argument stands- especially when you are collecting the aid for the VICTIMS and not the barbarian perpetrators of the crime.

Anyway, I just think more should be known about these crimes. I cannot say I knew about these horrors in 1990, as I was 8 at the time, but I have also been aware of these horrific going ons for a while now, but most people do not. Its a shame.

[Big_Bird]

I'm not sure that people are as generous as you believe. Charities dealing with Africa regularly complain about donor fatigue. I don't know why people don't talk about this more. I don't know why people don't talk about the level of sex crime at home more, either for that matter. I think there are many many issues in the world involving horrific human misery that don't get enough coverage. I seriously doubt it's some kind of leftist conspiracy to keep the world in ignorance of this kind of crime.

What will you personally do to stop this CC? If someone can suggest to me practical ways in which I can help, I will try to do something. But right now, it seems to me it is a problem that needs tackling from a government level, and I am not a minister of any African government.

[Big_Bird]

[ChimpumCallao]