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merkurix



Joined: 21 Dec 2006
Location: Not far from the deep end.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tiger Beer wrote:
merkurix wrote:
For those considering working at the uni level in Dubai and in other Middle East countries, a wonderful idea is to become a member of TESOL Arabia and try to attend their international conferences to network and apply for on the spot interviews there.

http://tesolarabia.org/

I have quite a few friends who are seasoned veteran teachers who cycle between Korea and UAE regularly. My friends tell me that a paying for flight from Incheon to the conference shows them that you are serious about working there.

How much do university gigs in UAE pay?


One good friend is making 72K a year for 8 weekly contact hours. He does not have a Ph.D., but he has been teaching for almost 10 years.
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tigerbluekitty



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

normalcyispasse wrote:
And almost perfect for me. I don't drink, I am married and I'm kinda tired of Korea.


I'm the same as you, non-drinker, married and kinda sick of Korea.

Been talking to my husband this whole afternoon about the prospect of moving to Dubai.. I'd really like a nice change in scenery about now.
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Muffin



Joined: 01 Mar 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Be careful how you apply. I answered an ad in the UK to teach in an international school in Dubai and it turned out to be a recruiter who sent me to London to be interviewed. To my surprise I was interviewed for a primary position in Bahrain.

To get good EFL jobs in the Middle East you need the TEFL Diploma or an MA in TEFL. Having said that I have heard of people with less who turned up and looked for jobs on the spot and did okay.

If you haven't already, you should register on the main forum (your Korean forum ID doesnt work for the others) and post the questions on the General Middle East or UAE forum.
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Adventurer



Joined: 28 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

merkurix wrote:
Tiger Beer wrote:
merkurix wrote:
For those considering working at the uni level in Dubai and in other Middle East countries, a wonderful idea is to become a member of TESOL Arabia and try to attend their international conferences to network and apply for on the spot interviews there.

http://tesolarabia.org/

I have quite a few friends who are seasoned veteran teachers who cycle between Korea and UAE regularly. My friends tell me that a paying for flight from Incheon to the conference shows them that you are serious about working there.

How much do university gigs in UAE pay?


One good friend is making 72K a year for 8 weekly contact hours. He does not have a Ph.D., but he has been teaching for almost 10 years.


Do you have to have a master's degree in English to have a university job in Dubai? I tried to register for the Dubai forum, but you can't register now. I am planning on working on my master's. I wouldn't necessarily mind coming to Dubai at some point. I do understand that those with bachelors are not better off going down there. You might be better off in Korea if you don't have a master's degree.
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Tony_Balony



Joined: 12 Apr 2007

PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:

UN drug advisor caught with hashish

By Bassam Za'za', Staff Reporter



Dubai: An international adviser with the Poppy Elimination Programme in Kandahar, Afghanistan and consultant with the UN’s Office on Drugs and Crimes (UNODC) pleaded innocent against possessing 0.6 grammes of hashish for personal use before a court on Tuesday.

The Public Prosecution had charged the Canadian suspect, H.W., with smuggling and possessing 0.6 grammes of hashish and two poppy seeds for personal use besides consuming hashish.

His lawyer Saeed Al Gailani of Al Gailani Advocates and Legal Consultants told the Dubai Court of First Instance: “My client is an anti-narcotics officer who cooperates with the UNODC.

"During his one-hour transit visit from Kandahar where he was on an anti-narcotics campaign, he was caught at the airport carrying the poppy seeds, which he was taking to Canada for experiments.”
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merkurix



Joined: 21 Dec 2006
Location: Not far from the deep end.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adventurer wrote:
merkurix wrote:
Tiger Beer wrote:
merkurix wrote:
For those considering working at the uni level in Dubai and in other Middle East countries, a wonderful idea is to become a member of TESOL Arabia and try to attend their international conferences to network and apply for on the spot interviews there.

http://tesolarabia.org/

I have quite a few friends who are seasoned veteran teachers who cycle between Korea and UAE regularly. My friends tell me that a paying for flight from Incheon to the conference shows them that you are serious about working there.

How much do university gigs in UAE pay?


One good friend is making 72K a year for 8 weekly contact hours. He does not have a Ph.D., but he has been teaching for almost 10 years.


Do you have to have a master's degree in English to have a university job in Dubai? I tried to register for the Dubai forum, but you can't register now. I am planning on working on my master's. I wouldn't necessarily mind coming to Dubai at some point. I do understand that those with bachelors are not better off going down there. You might be better off in Korea if you don't have a master's degree.


As far as I know an M.A. in TESOL is most helpful (that is wht my friend had) and teaching experience. I'd like to try it sometime down the road after I invest a few more years in uni here. What is also awesome is (at the unis there) they prefer married men over anyone else. Why that is I don't know, but family men are given a very nice living space for their entire family and if the children are of school age, the uni will also pay for the children's tuition at an international school. For those of you who are married (with a family) and can live off the booze for a while, here is your chance. Cool
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Leavingkorea



Joined: 27 Apr 2007

PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave's still a fountain of misinformation. Why do people who've never even been somewhere comment on it? How empty is your life?

Dubai

Great city to live in. Loads of fun.

Pros:
You can drink and buy booze.
Loads of women (just not the locals)
Groceries are cheap
Eating out can be cheap or insanely expensive
Great nightlife

Cons:
Arabs make the worst hogwan owner in the world seem like an awesome boss.
Money is not as good as people make you think. Jobs in Dubai have seen salaries falling fast and hard for 10 years now because the city is not a hardship post.
Traffic is perhaps the worst in the world
No public transportation.
You will burn through loads of money because there is so much to do.

I worked and lived there. People who say you live in compounds are morons. There are no compounds in the UAE!!!!! You live in an apartment, house or like me in a suite at a hotel. I spent a year in a hotel suite. You can drink in many different establishments and you can buy an alcohol licence although honestly it's a lot cheaper and easier to just go to the hole in the wall black marketer in Ajman.

Abu Dabi pays more but is too isolated for my taste.

Pay ranges 7,500-12,000 D a month is fairly standard now. I knew a few Brits making 3,500 D a month. Which is a joke.

The real high paying jobs are in Saudi and Kuwait to a degree. If you can get a military contract job that has danger pay you'll get close to $200,000. Saudi is a compound country and is dry.
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Tiger Beer



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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As far as I know an M.A. in TESOL is most helpful (that is wht my friend had) and teaching experience. I'd like to try it sometime down the road after I invest a few more years in uni here. What is also awesome is (at the unis there) they prefer married men over anyone else. Why that is I don't know, but family men are given a very nice living space for their entire family and if the children are of school age, the uni will also pay for the children's tuition at an international school. For those of you who are married (with a family) and can live off the booze for a while, here is your chance. Cool

I like this though. If according to LeavingKorea this isn't UAE, where is it?
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Adventurer



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tiger Beer wrote:
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As far as I know an M.A. in TESOL is most helpful (that is wht my friend had) and teaching experience. I'd like to try it sometime down the road after I invest a few more years in uni here. What is also awesome is (at the unis there) they prefer married men over anyone else. Why that is I don't know, but family men are given a very nice living space for their entire family and if the children are of school age, the uni will also pay for the children's tuition at an international school. For those of you who are married (with a family) and can live off the booze for a while, here is your chance. Cool

I like this though. If according to LeavingKorea this isn't UAE, where is it?


Frankly, if I would go to Dubai, it would be to teach in an international school at some point using my teaching certificate. I am sure the job market is very competitive. I am not really interested in getting an MA in ESL, though. I prefer to get one in psychology. That seems more marketable in North America than ESL. ESL seems more geared to just staying in the classroom and often having to go abroad. Back to Dubai, I hear it is a great city overall. However, like the person posted if you go to a hagwon in Dubai it could be a very bad situation from what I understand. You want to be in a university or an international school.
I, for one, do not want to take the risk, though I know the Middle East a bit having been to Jordan, having gone to an international school for some years before in Kuwait. I prefer to go home and add to my credentials.
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contrarian



Joined: 20 Jan 2007
Location: Nearly in NK

PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder of they would appreciate the Star of David that I replaced the Canadian flag on my bad with.

Shocked
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Adventurer



Joined: 28 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

contrarian wrote:
I wonder of they would appreciate the Star of David that I replaced the Canadian flag on my bad with.

Shocked


I suppose that would work as well as a Hezbollah flag in Tel Aviv, eh?
There are Jews who work in Dubai, but they just don't advertise that fact... I think that will be doable in 20 years or less but not now...
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Leavingkorea



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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However, like the person posted if you go to a hagwon in Dubai it could be a very bad situation from what I understand. You want to be in a university or an international school.


They are not all good either. A lot of bad apples in those bunches as well. In fact I'd lean towards saying most are bad apples. It is not generally a fun place to teach at all. And if you think your E2 or E1 is restrictive wait till you go there. You can't do a runner because you're not aloud to leave the country without your employers permission.
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Tiger Beer



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

merkurix wrote:
Tiger Beer wrote:
merkurix wrote:
For those considering working at the uni level in Dubai and in other Middle East countries, a wonderful idea is to become a member of TESOL Arabia and try to attend their international conferences to network and apply for on the spot interviews there.

http://tesolarabia.org/

I have quite a few friends who are seasoned veteran teachers who cycle between Korea and UAE regularly. My friends tell me that a paying for flight from Incheon to the conference shows them that you are serious about working there.

How much do university gigs in UAE pay?


One good friend is making 72K a year for 8 weekly contact hours. He does not have a Ph.D., but he has been teaching for almost 10 years.


How is his vacation time?
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merkurix



Joined: 21 Dec 2006
Location: Not far from the deep end.

PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tiger Beer wrote:
merkurix wrote:
Tiger Beer wrote:
merkurix wrote:
For those considering working at the uni level in Dubai and in other Middle East countries, a wonderful idea is to become a member of TESOL Arabia and try to attend their international conferences to network and apply for on the spot interviews there.

http://tesolarabia.org/

I have quite a few friends who are seasoned veteran teachers who cycle between Korea and UAE regularly. My friends tell me that a paying for flight from Incheon to the conference shows them that you are serious about working there.

How much do university gigs in UAE pay?


One good friend is making 72K a year for 8 weekly contact hours. He does not have a Ph.D., but he has been teaching for almost 10 years.


How is his vacation time?


His particular uni sends their teachers out of the country for a couple of months during the summer (he says it's a bad idea to stay there in the summer). They pay for it (they even pay airfare for their families if they are family men as well). I am sure what the incentives are for winter session. I can ask.

For booze: if it sounded like I meant to say "drinking is not allowed" it is. I was told that you do need a license permitting you to buy alcohol, but you can only buy at special places like hotels. It's a bit of a pain, so it is indeed possible to drink, but it is not easy or convenient enough to take it up with fair regularity.
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HapKi



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 6:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just got off the phone today with a friend whose been working in UAE for the last 4 years or so. He works for HCT, the largest institution, since the education system was privatized a couple years ago. 14 colleges across the Emirates (1 male and 1 female campus in seven different locations). He says teaching men are easier, as the women tend to complain more. Teaching 3 40 minutes classes a day, for well into 60,000 USD a year. He has his MA and several years teaching in Korea, as well as one in Florida. When he first got there, they put him up in a nice hotel for several months, buffet 3 times a day. SWEET! (In fact, it was the same hotel the Korean Soccer team stayed at when they played there several years ago. He played ping pong with some of the players in the game room.)

He has plenty of time off, and the fact he is single means he can pocket some of the plane fare money that would otherwise go toward his spouse and kids a couple times a year during vacations. He's got a nice 3+ bedroom apartment, and was given a nice furniture allowance that you can either spend on furniture, or pocket. Many other perks, including free international schooling for children over 5 years old.

A country club just opened up in his city. He paid $1,800 a year membership fee, carts, lighted back nine. He said it's mostly for the foreign community, as the Arabs don't golf. In fact, he said the Arabs don't do much of anything. Hobbies are either falconery or 4x4ing in the dunes.
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