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Demophobe

Joined: 17 May 2004
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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nicholas_chiasson wrote: |
One of the nice things about christianty is all the bad people can only go to hell once. Therefore hommosexuality is sinful, like all the other sins in the book. And some sins are more 'disgusting' than others. But the aesthetics of sexual practices aren't really important. After all burning in hell for sod-om-omy, or necrophillia or fornication, do you really care WHY you're there. As a catholic, you can do pretty much anything if you're sorry before you die. |
There is no degree to sin. A thief, a murderer, a homosexual, a liar...all are equally sinful. |
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ChimpumCallao

Joined: 17 May 2005 Location: your mom
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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Demophobe wrote: |
nicholas_chiasson wrote: |
One of the nice things about christianty is all the bad people can only go to hell once. Therefore hommosexuality is sinful, like all the other sins in the book. And some sins are more 'disgusting' than others. But the aesthetics of sexual practices aren't really important. After all burning in hell for sod-om-omy, or necrophillia or fornication, do you really care WHY you're there. As a catholic, you can do pretty much anything if you're sorry before you die. |
There is no degree to sin. A thief, a murderer, a homosexual, a liar...all are equally sinful. |
Someone who steals things, someone who takes a LIFE, and someone who loves another person of the same sex and does not harm others is the same thing.
That is why religion is b*llsh*t. It goes against our own moral code- it goes against human logic. What a bunch of bologna. Religion has turned you into a monster, as you are unable to see things for what they actually are. Inflicting pain on others is bad. Doing things that do not hurt others is fine. Religion has made you crazy and evil. |
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Jizzo T. Clown

Joined: 27 Mar 2006 Location: at my wit's end
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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Dude. Clowns love parades. |
Indeed.
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laogaiguk

Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Location: somewhere in Korea
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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ChimpumCallao wrote: |
Someone who steals things, someone who takes a LIFE, and someone who loves another person of the same sex and does not harm others is the same thing.
That is why religion is b*llsh*t. It goes against our own moral code- it goes against human logic. What a bunch of bologna. Religion has turned you into a monster, as you are unable to see things for what they actually are. Inflicting pain on others is bad. Doing things that do not hurt others is fine. Religion has made you crazy and evil. |
I don't think he is evil. I doubt he would ever do anything to physically harm someone who was gay, though I would put money on him making it illegal if he had the chance. He is one ignorant cookie, as is religion, but I do not think he is evil. |
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contrarian
Joined: 20 Jan 2007 Location: Nearly in NK
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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From a correct scriptural point of view (The King James Version) homosexuality is a sin. So are fornication and adultery. To live a proper life and be unmarried it is necessary to remain celibate.
While here in Korea in a fairly small town there was one other foreigner. I befrieded him and quickly learned he was a flaming femme gay. Otherwise a very decent chap.
I had a car and I used to drive him where he could get decent meals and Subway Sandwices. He put his hand gently on my knee once. I told him to remove it or I'd break his wrist. He did and we remained friends. |
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nicholas_chiasson

Joined: 14 Jun 2007 Location: Samcheok
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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-You know one of the things I called sinfull, I've been known to practice. And it doesn't involve dead people. I can't understand why people want to rewrite the rules of religons. If you don't like one, go find another one. Or say religon is evil. But please don't say God loves you BECAUSE you're gay. Cause he don't. He loves people cause he made them. Until God's voice booms over a pride march "These are my beloved sons in whom I am well pleased" I'm going to go with God isn't exactly down with hommosexuality. I don't say God loved me for getting laid in university. I think it made him rather upset. |
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kermo

Joined: 01 Sep 2004 Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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contrarian wrote: |
From a correct scriptural point of view (The King James Version) homosexuality is a sin. So are fornication and adultery. To live a proper life and be unmarried it is necessary to remain celibate.
While here in Korea in a fairly small town there was one other foreigner. I befrieded him and quickly learned he was a flaming femme gay. Otherwise a very decent chap.
I had a car and I used to drive him where he could get decent meals and Subway Sandwices. He put his hand gently on my knee once. I told him to remove it or I'd break his wrist. He did and we remained friends. |
Can you explain how you settled on the King James Version as the correct one?
I mean, wouldn't you want something that's at least post-Dead-Sea?
http://www.devotions.net/bible/00bible.htm
Yay! A searchable New Revised Standard Version!
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Atavistic
Joined: 22 May 2006 Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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Jizzo T. Clown wrote: |
Atavistic wrote: |
Dude. Clowns love parades. |
Indeed.
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Jizzo! Is that you? Looking good man! I'd hit it. |
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Atavistic
Joined: 22 May 2006 Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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JMO wrote: |
Jizzo T. Clown wrote: |
Odd that the Bible only seems concerned about male homosexuals--there's no mention of female homosexuality that I'm aware of, though there is plenty of scripture that *says* sodomy is wrong. |
I'm pretty sure sodomy doesn't just mean gay sex, it means any sexual act not designed for procreation. In other word if you give/recieve oral sex then you are precticing sodomy. |
Or if you jack off. |
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JongnoGuru

Joined: 25 May 2004 Location: peeing on your doorstep
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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I would say I'm probably moderately homophobic. Maybe "average homophobic". As far as I can tell, it's got nothing to do with things that you're liable to read in the Bible.
On the one hand, I'm live & let live, and what goes on between adults behind the bedroom door isn't any of my or the government's business. While I'm not all about gay rights and such, were it to come to a vote, I think I'd be in favour of almost any legislation ensuring equal liberties and equal treatment. If someone I didn't know or didn't like came up and called me a kweer as an insult, it just wouldn't faze me at all.
However, were people I work with, my acquaintances, friends, family, etc. -- were they to start thinking I'm gay, and were rumours (not malicious ones, but genuine suspicions) to begin swirling around, I'd find that alarming and disconcerting. And I'd make sure to set the record straight. (ouch) Why is that? Because the average straight man, whatever the culture or religion, does not like having his masculinity questioned?
So far, this thread is focused on the guys. What about lesbophobic? Anyone frightened by, distrustful of, got a hate-on for lesbians? At the level of mere insults, it doesn't seem as much of a put-down for a straight woman to be called a lesbian as it is for a straight guy to be called a homosexual, does it? When women get into catfights, they don't impugn each other's sexual persuasion like men so often do -- they diss each other's figure or fashion sense or age. Why isn't being called a dyke as bad -- as "fightin' words" bad -- to straight women as being called a homo is to most straight guys? |
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Atavistic
Joined: 22 May 2006 Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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JongnoGuru wrote: |
Why isn't being called a dyke as bad -- as "fightin' words" bad -- to straight women as being called a homo is to most straight guys? |
Being called a lesbian isn't that annoying. Being called a dyke is. Dyke has a whole level of hate behind it. |
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ChimpumCallao

Joined: 17 May 2005 Location: your mom
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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Atavistic wrote: |
JongnoGuru wrote: |
Why isn't being called a dyke as bad -- as "fightin' words" bad -- to straight women as being called a homo is to most straight guys? |
Being called a lesbian isn't that annoying. |
Why would it be? It'd be like Mexicans being annoyed they're called Mexicans. |
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JongnoGuru

Joined: 25 May 2004 Location: peeing on your doorstep
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Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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Atavistic wrote: |
JongnoGuru wrote: |
Why isn't being called a dyke as bad -- as "fightin' words" bad -- to straight women as being called a homo is to most straight guys? |
Being called a lesbian isn't that annoying. Being called a dyke is. Dyke has a whole level of hate behind it. |
Okay, assume for the sake of argument that "homo" and "dyke" have precisely the same levels of hate behind them. If that doesn't work, then pick two other words that to your ears have the same levels of hate behind them.
Now, why is it that when straight men bash each other (offline, but especially online) it's almost a dead cert that one or both are going to call each other a fag (or imply it) before the fight's over, whereas one so rarely sees women doing that? Oh, they certainly have their arsenal of put-downs, but "dyke!" & "lesbian!" aren't typically among them. Why not? I think it's because it's considered far more damning to impugn a man's sexual preference than a woman's, and those insults for women just don't smart as much. And I'm wondering why that is. |
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Kwangjuchicken

Joined: 01 Sep 2003 Location: I was abducted by aliens on my way to Korea and forced to be an EFL teacher on this crazy planet.
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 1:11 am Post subject: |
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I once had a close friend who was gay and I thought he was homophobic. Sometimes he would look in a mirror and scream. Turned out it was just a new wrinkle or a new gray hair. |
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JMO

Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Location: Daegu
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 1:19 am Post subject: |
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Demophobe wrote: |
nicholas_chiasson wrote: |
One of the nice things about christianty is all the bad people can only go to hell once. Therefore hommosexuality is sinful, like all the other sins in the book. And some sins are more 'disgusting' than others. But the aesthetics of sexual practices aren't really important. After all burning in hell for sod-om-omy, or necrophillia or fornication, do you really care WHY you're there. As a catholic, you can do pretty much anything if you're sorry before you die. |
There is no degree to sin. A thief, a murderer, a homosexual, a liar...all are equally sinful. |
Maybe its just my catholic heritage, but I thought there was a difference between a venial sin and a mortal sin?
Anyway if you really believe that murder and lying are the same(its not clear from your wording) then you have a severe case of black and white-itis. I hear the bible can do that to you. |
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