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The Bobster
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| yushin wrote: |
| why not? because it's bloody expensive! not to mention exhausting! I mean realistically how may women can you service on a regular basis? |
For me, it's always been just one at a time ... I mentioned I'm selfish, but I forgot to mention how lazy I am.
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Tony_Balony
Joined: 12 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 2:39 am Post subject: |
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Polygamy is bad because rich men can have as many wives as they want while poor men can't have any. Saudi Arabia is mentally twisted over this. The IHT had an article about the Turkish man that had 56 children with six wives. His last wife was 16 and blind when put into arranged marriage and he dumped her because she and the children were too expensive to maintain. Hence the need for "tolerance" in Europe.
Polygamus marriages are used to perpetuate an outdated and destructive form of masculity that "has many sons" that contributes to overpopulation and economic depravity, desperation and wars. Further, polygamus marriages cater to "players" who leave fatherless children who have mental and emotional problems.
When polygamus and monogamus cultures mix, friction happens because men from the polygamus societies can be on the sexual make always while the men form the monogamus societies cannot be. This causes friction and decrease in the quality of life. |
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kermo
Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.
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| Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 3:21 am Post subject: |
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It is a fair question. I don't have an answer for it. I do have a gripe about the article.
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| Same-sex marriage opens up the possibility of polygamy because it detaches marriage from the biological reality of the basic procreative relationship between one man and one woman and that means there is no longer any inherent reason to limit it to two people whether of the same or opposite sex. Once that biological reality is removed as the central, essential feature and �limiting device,� marriage can become whatever we choose to define it as. |
The "biological reality" is that man is a polygamous animal. The majority of cultures in the world are polygamous. Powerful, high status men have many women. Low status men have one or less. In our case, monogamy is the social construct. Matt Ridley has a good discussion of this in The Red Queen.
I've come around on this issue a little, vis a vie the social usefulness of monogamy. Consider this post a vote for gay marriage and against polygamy. |
That's true in a patriarchal society, particularly in a group that has a lot of widows/single women with no means to support themselves.
The most prominent examples of polygamy (eg., Mormon-type splinter-group communes) that we've seen in this society have been very exploitative, particularly of young women. However, there are definitely people quietly making it work in little tribes or clusters.
Jealousy is natural, but it's not impossible to tolerate (believe me, I know) and it also varies a great deal with expectations.
There seem to be two types of poly people-- those who comfortably maintain sexual relationships with multiple people, and those who are polyamorous, i.e., have loving, intimate relationship with multiple people (there are overlaps between the groups, of course.) I don't think there are roo many people who are truly polyamorous. |
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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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| Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 5:10 am Post subject: |
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I remember staying a few days with an Afghani family in London. My French boyfriend could speak a handful of languages including Farsi and so had quite a few Afgani friends. The wife was in her late 30s with a 15 year old son. She was scolding the husband, complaining that he had never married a second wife. He was smiling and rolling his eyes going "Yes yes..." (as in yes yes here we go again). The wife had married him expecting to have partner wives to help her around the house and stuff, and here she was doing everything herself. It really annoyed her that he refused to marry a second woman.
I can see how it might be a good arrangement with the right personalities. If one wife liked staying at home and cooking and spending her day looking after the kiddies (as some women do) the other wife could go off and work, and help bring home more bacon, while having a satisfying career. Or two women could work different shifts and not have to worry about childcare expenses etc. But if either wife had a high sex drive - it might be a bit..um... unsatisfying. |
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crusher_of_heads
Joined: 23 Feb 2007
Location: kimbop and kimchi for kimberly!!!!
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| Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 7:44 am Post subject: |
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| I think men might like the idea of it initially, but when they really consider it, and recognise that only a minority of men would benefit, while a majority of men would be disadvantaged, they're probably going to oppose it. It's hard to see it being legalised. |
While this might surprise you, not being a dyed in the wool conservative, I attempt to tune noise about same sex/polygamy marriage out-in Canada, it would not be so much as leglized, but laws prohibiting polygamy would be struck down as unconstituional, and polygamy would go through the back door.
back door-oh my! |
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Alias
Joined: 24 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 7:46 am Post subject: |
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Speaking of gay marriage in Canada:
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Liberal MP Scott Brison is set to become the first federal politician to tie the knot in a same-sex ceremony since MPs made gay marriage the law of the land just over two years ago.
Brison, 40, will marry partner Maxime St. Pierre next Saturday in his Kings-Hants riding, a bucolic corner of Nova Scotia's Annapolis Valley.
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http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nova-scotia/story/2007/08/10/brison-marriage.html
I wonder if Stockwell is performing the ceremony? |
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