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dmbfan
Joined: 09 Mar 2006
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 Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 9:28 am Post subject: San Francisco politics, here.......... |
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NVASION USA
Savage attacked by officials pushing immigrant bailout
San Francisco leaders want taxpayers to pay for green cards, citizenship
Posted: August 10, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern
� 2007 WorldNetDaily.com
San Francisco city officials are trying to force taxpayers to pay for immigrants' green cards and citizenship � and to bolster their case for the new tax, they've introduced a resolution condemning national radio talk-show host Michael Savage for what they call his "defamatory language ... against immigrants."
Supervisor Chris Daly, reacting to the new and significantly higher federal fee structure for immigrants seeking citizenship, imposed last week by the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services, complained that the fee hikes raise concerns that immigrants "cannot obtain safe pathways to legal immigrant status and citizenship" and "further exacerbates pressures on families, increasing stress," according to the San Francisco Examiner.
Under the new fee structure, the cost to apply for a green card is now $930, up $605 from the old fee. Citizenship applications went from $330 to $595. On Tuesday, Daly asked the city attorney to draw up legislation that would subsidize immigrants applying for citizenship, green cards and petitions for relatives and workers.
On the same day, apparently to further generate sympathy for immigrants and bolster Daly's bailout effort, Supervisor Gerardo Sandoval introduced a resolution condemning popular radio talk-show host Michael Savage, a mainstay of the San Francisco airways for years. Since he was syndicated nationally by Talk Radio Network, Savage has become one of the nation's most-listened-to radio talkers.
(Story continues below)
Condemning the "defamatory language used by radio personality Michael Savage against immigrants," Sandoval's resolution is apparently in response to Savage's July 5 broadcast, when the talker commented on a group of students who had announced they were fasting in support of changes in immigration policy.
"I would say, let them fast until they starve to death," quipped Savage, "then that solves the problem."
Sandoval's resolution calls Savage's comments "symbolic of hatred and racism," according to the Examiner.
"I really for the life of me cannot understand why there is not more media outrage to what Michael Savage said," Sandoval said in the Examiner report, which added that Sandoval plans to hold a press conference on the steps of City Hall Tuesday just before the entire Board of Supervisors votes on his resolution against Savage.
"The intolerant and racist comments of Michael Savage demand a strong condemnation," Sandoval insisted.
However, almost all of the Examiner's readers who posted comments on the newspaper's website after the story sided with Savage.
Representative responses included these:
* "Hey Sandoval, we are not outraged at Michael Savage because we agree with him ... check the polls on immigration, lame-o."
* "If we had more Michael Savages and less milk toast leaders we wouldn't be in this situation. They are taking over and bringing our country down to a 3rd world level. Thank God for the Michael Savages and the other true AMERICANS."
* "Screw Sandoval and the illegal alien criminals who continue to invade this country. It's people like him who are causing the downfall of the west. Savage is 100% right on! My mom came here LEGALLY � FROM MEXICO ... I have every right to be totally nuclear about these illegal aliens bringing their bankrupt culture from Southern Mexico."
* "The Mexican illegal immigrants think they don't have to obey our laws and are taking advantage of our health care system and robbing our Medicare, emergency rooms at hospitals and then have the gall to mail there American dollars back to Mexico!!! I listen to your talk show every night Mr. Savage and can't wait to listen to you tell it like it is ..."
* "God Bless M. Savage. Down with La Raza "The Race."
* "Making me learn your language (Spanish) to even get a job isn't racist? C'mon, we the legal citizens are tired of the catering to the illegals. Come here legally and follow our laws, that is all we ask. Michael Savage is the voice of the true Americans, not the scum (politicians) who get bought off to cater to lawbreakers."
* "Savage is a true man of the people of this country. That is, the people of this country who live here legally. The rest can go to hell � or starve to death."
The San Francisco government's proposed resolution condemning Savage is just the latest in a major, multifaceted � and largely unreported � effort both in and out of government to transform American talk radio. The entire campaign, complete with details of battles against Rush Limbaugh, Savage and other top talkers, is revealed in-depth in the current edition of WND's monthly Whistleblower magazine, titled THE WAR ON TALK RADIO." |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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what's your point? I'm in favor of it. The fee increase hurts the country. We need to make it easier for people to become permanent residents, not harder.
You think an illegal is going to apply for a green card? ha ha, no. The people applying are already in the states legally (such as students, professionals on work visas, etc). |
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dmbfan
Joined: 09 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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My point? I did not realize I attempted to make one, other then just making a posting to see what others felt about it.
But, I don't agree tax payers should be funding this.
Citizenship is not something that should be easy, or just given away. If that is the case, then it does not mean anything. I don't know about you, but as an American I don't feel it is everyones RIGHT to demand such things. Nor do I feel it helps the country in any way.
Things like this should be earned, not paid for by citizens....... |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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The only tax payers that would be paying for it are the citizens of san francisco and those that stay at SF hotels (via hotel tax). I would wager the majority of SF residents would support such a measure. If not, they will vote their supervisors out of office.
And BTW, they do have to take a test to be citizens. They have to put SOME effort into it besides just paying a fee. |
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dmbfan
Joined: 09 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, the good thing about democracy...........I guess presidne Bush is not doing such a bad job after all?
If the people vote on it, misguided as they may be, then it is their call.
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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I guess presidne Bush is not doing such a bad job after all?
If the people vote on it, misguided as they may be, then it is their call.
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eh, well things have caught up to him apparently:
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| Mr Bush has the worst approval ratings since Jimmy Carter�29% according to Newsweek and 31% according to NBC News. Only 19% of Americans think that America is headed in the right direction under Mr Bush. An astonishing 45% of Americans, including 13% of Republicans, support impeaching Mr Bush, according to the American Research Group. |
The American Right- Under the Weather (economist article) |
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dmbfan
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| Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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Well, when you have a biased far left media, it does tend to cloud ones judegment I suppose.
Oh, and his approval rating has started to rise......
But, back to the topic at hand...............I just don't see how simply giving away citizenship or permanent residency is justifiable........unless you are a democrat looking for votes........or are from San Francisco.
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Alias
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| Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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| dmbfan wrote: |
Well, when you have a biased far left media, it does tend to cloud ones judegment I suppose.
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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| bucheon bum wrote: |
| I would wager the majority of SF residents would support such a measure... |
I agree. See this quote from the OP...?
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| San Francisco city officials are trying to force taxpayers to...[my emphasis] |
This scenario makes no sense to me and I think the writer -- clearly hostile to the proposal -- has San-Francisco politics the-other-way-around.
San Francisco is a very liberal city, liberal to its grass-roots, anomolies like Michael Savage and whatever support he enjoys on the ground there notwithstanding. San Franciscans usually go about articulating themselves reasonably and intelligently. And places like UCBerkeley stand out as brilliant national universities. I must admit I admire San Franciscans for once openly defying the fed govt on medically-prescribed marijuana. (Not that I support what they did. But I admire that these docs actually put themselves on the line for their ideals.)
Whatever this proposal is (and I do not think OP fairly represents it), clearly it is San Francisco's business. It would not affect anyone else.
At the end of the day, we are a decentralized nation. And if this is what San Franciscans want, good for them.
What is the story here? |
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