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tigerbluekitty
Joined: 19 Apr 2007
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Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 2:12 am Post subject: |
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Brazillian BBQ!!!
Cook me up some ribeyes! |
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Tony_Balony

Joined: 12 Apr 2007
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Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 2:15 am Post subject: |
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| t's simply an amazing place and the potential that country has is phenomenal. |
Brazil is and will always be a country of the future. |
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Tiger Beer

Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 2:49 am Post subject: |
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of course brazil is more exciting -- haven't you seen 'city of god'?
nothing more exciting than seeing a crying 6 year old kid getting shot in the foot and then seeing his 10 year old friend get shot to death by another 10 year old, while a group of teens are laughing. |
There are a lot of homeless kids living on the streets of Brazil. You'll walk by 7-year-olds randomly just sleeping on cardboard. Other times, you'll see entire families (those are the lucky kids, at least they still have their parents!). As many of these kids can't work like adults, they are forced to steal and band together. Many Brazilians OFTEN get circled and robbed by homeless kids in the streets!
During the 1980s, there were something like 1000 kids shot dead in the streets a year for a few years by vigilantes (often said to have included off-duty cops).
It is a common these in Brazilian film to include a scene where a kid gets killed by a shopowner with a gun, etc. As it is part of the fabric of life in Brazil.
Still though...I absolutely LOVED Brazil. As someone else posted on here about wanting to immigrate there. I went through the same 'saudade' (intense longing) to be back in Brazil long after I'd left. I spent a couple years trying to save up enough $ to emigrate there (but lost my way from that dream somewhere along the way and ended up back in South Korea).
Still, I love Brazil though. |
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Optimus Prime

Joined: 05 Jul 2007
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Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 6:47 am Post subject: |
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| Tiger Beer wrote: |
| [ I went through the same 'saudade' (intense longing) |
Come on. Everyone knows only Koreans experience intense emotion. |
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Tiger Beer

Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 3:24 am Post subject: Re: Is Brazil more exciting than korea? |
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just4u
Joined: 30 May 2007 Location: Georgia, USA
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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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jajdude
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 2:58 am Post subject: |
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In Taiwan, people generally get drunk a lot (much more so than in Korea, believe it or not).... |
If so, that's a lot of drinking. |
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Tiger Beer

Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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In Taiwan, people generally get drunk a lot (much more so than in Korea, believe it or not), don't have computers at home, hang out with their roomates, and PC rooms are much harder to find than in Korea.
In Japan, there are some complaints but those are generally about schools and not life outside of the schools. There is a lot to do outside of work in that country and very difficult to get bored. I don't think I was bored there once. Foreigners can use the public library even. Language classes are readily available (as so in Taiwan, also.) In Japan, PC rooms can be expensive and hard to find depending on your area.
Basically both countries have a lot more to do and so people just don't post as much.
Taiwan does see a lot of complaints. Not on this board, though. Go to tealit and especially forumosa and you will see people gripe. There, though, it's mainly about the working conditions (as in Japan) but with the added aspect of the weather and pollution being really jacked up. |
Of the three, Japan, Korea and Taiwan.
I'd say its overwhelmingly Korea that takes in the most teachers by a long-shot. Not only brand new teachers, but often direct from universities in western countries.
The free airfare and paid accomodations greatly add to just how easy it is to get over here. So it's my feeling there are greater shocks to adjusting to Korea. A lot more jobs and a lot more newbies to Asia.
Japan attracts people attracted to Japan. Taiwan attracts people interested in either Chinese culture or something slighly different or as an other option. Korea attracts people without money, those who want money, those who want to travel other places, those with limited resources to go somewhere outside of free tickets, those who just want a little adventure, on and on... |
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GoldSoundz

Joined: 12 Jun 2008 Location: Pohang
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Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 7:03 am Post subject: |
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| Tiger Beer wrote: |
| just4u wrote: |
In Taiwan, people generally get drunk a lot (much more so than in Korea, believe it or not), don't have computers at home, hang out with their roomates, and PC rooms are much harder to find than in Korea.
In Japan, there are some complaints but those are generally about schools and not life outside of the schools. There is a lot to do outside of work in that country and very difficult to get bored. I don't think I was bored there once. Foreigners can use the public library even. Language classes are readily available (as so in Taiwan, also.) In Japan, PC rooms can be expensive and hard to find depending on your area.
Basically both countries have a lot more to do and so people just don't post as much.
Taiwan does see a lot of complaints. Not on this board, though. Go to tealit and especially forumosa and you will see people gripe. There, though, it's mainly about the working conditions (as in Japan) but with the added aspect of the weather and pollution being really jacked up. |
Of the three, Japan, Korea and Taiwan.
I'd say its overwhelmingly Korea that takes in the most teachers by a long-shot. Not only brand new teachers, but often direct from universities in western countries.
The free airfare and paid accomodations greatly add to just how easy it is to get over here. So it's my feeling there are greater shocks to adjusting to Korea. A lot more jobs and a lot more newbies to Asia.
Japan attracts people attracted to Japan. Taiwan attracts people interested in either Chinese culture or something slighly different or as an other option. Korea attracts people without money, those who want money, those who want to travel other places, those with limited resources to go somewhere outside of free tickets, those who just want a little adventure, on and on... |
Perfectly stated. Thank you. |
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santafly
Joined: 20 Feb 2008
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Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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I was in brazil for two months in '07 - I'm a paraglider pilot and I was there exclusively to fly - competitions, escaping the winter in N.America - flew into Rio, spent time mainly in Minas and Espiritu Santo, also went down to Floripa (buses and drove myself) -
The landscape is simply incredible, it is distinct from anything else I have seen on 4 continents - reason enough to spend lots of time there. The food is not good - I'm sure there is good food at fancy restaurants but the midrange and budget is way below average for Latin America. Women are beautiful, varied and accessable but the whole "cazagringo" thing (gringo hunters - women after foreigners) really turned me off - also high rate of STD's and varying shades of prostitution make things uneasy. Many of my friends in the paragliding communtiy spend lots of time in Brazil - they kept telling me how dangerous it was going to be and if I landed near a favela I would be shot - I landed near favelas a number of times and never had any problems (although I just spoke spanish, mixed with portuguese, and told everyone I was Peruvian). I think there are some very dangerous places in brazil and other places are completely safe - some of the towns I went to were almost completely Italian or German - definitely didn't feel like there was any concern for safety there or in the countryside. People were extremely friendly - I hitchhiked many times after paraglider flights - a couple times big trucks picked me up and refused to accept my beer money offers.
For me, brazilian culture is nowhere near as interesting as Andean culture - that said, I love samba, bossa nova, brazilian lounge, capoeira, women in skimpy outfits, acai na tigela, drinking esspresso in the jungle, and I would like to go back to see the northern deserts/beaches and the black communities/colonial towns. the beaches I saw, from Vitoria down to floripa, varied from absolute shit to ok.
By comparison, I would never suggest anyone come to Korea for any reason except making money. |
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Toon Army

Joined: 12 Mar 2007
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Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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About the Taiwan and Japan forums, I don't see as much moaning there as I do on the Korean forums. Are people generally happier living there? |
Yes. I've been on the China and Japanese forums and don't hear as much complaint as I have heard on this forum in the last 5 years. |
The Japan Daves ESL forum is pretty dead.....go to Gaijinpot.com as that`s where most of them post. You`ll find plenty of complaining on there  |
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Insidejohnmalkovich

Joined: 11 Jan 2008 Location: Pusan
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Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Brazil, the movie by Terry Gilliam, was way more exciting than Korea. <grins> |
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Rae

Joined: 10 Oct 2007
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tfunk

Joined: 12 Aug 2006 Location: Dublin, Ireland
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Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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| rocklee wrote: |
| bonanzabucks wrote: |
About the Taiwan and Japan forums, I don't see as much moaning there as I do on the Korean forums. Are people generally happier living there? |
Yes. I've been on the China and Japanese forums and don't hear as much complaint as I have heard on this forum in the last 5 years. |
Are you talking sheer numbers or proportionally? The Korean forums are very active. |
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Tiger Beer

Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 2:40 am Post subject: |
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| Toon Army wrote: |
| rocklee wrote: |
| bonanzabucks wrote: |
About the Taiwan and Japan forums, I don't see as much moaning there as I do on the Korean forums. Are people generally happier living there? |
Yes. I've been on the China and Japanese forums and don't hear as much complaint as I have heard on this forum in the last 5 years. |
The Japan Daves ESL forum is pretty dead.....go to Gaijinpot.com as that`s where most of them post. You`ll find plenty of complaining on there  |
Japan Daves ESL Forum is practically dead. I've posted on there in the past, but its more of a Q&A format, rather than a community feel to it.
I've encountered quite a few Japan ESLers that post over here though, myself included.
Interesting enough, Japan inquiries and topics get discussed MUCH more over HERE on the Korean Forum, than over there on the Japan Forum!
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All that said, now that I am in Japan, I do like it more than Korea, but neither place is exactly ideal and perfect, but I've been very content in both places so far. Now Brazil! If only they paid Korea/japan salaries! I personally really like all three though. |
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