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ghost



Joined: 06 Dec 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:20 pm    Post subject: save and wait Reply with quote

I make 2.7 as a teacher trainer. I save between 1.5 to 1.7 per month. It would be more, but for Korean lessons (130.000 month) and travel to and from Seoul once a week.

So saving 1 million a month seems to be the norm.

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naturegirl321



Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Home sweet home

PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But 1 million won a month isn't much, is it? On the Job Discussion Forum, everyone says that in Korea you can save about double that. So does that mean that you only save about 12000 USD a year?
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IlIlNine



Joined: 15 Jun 2005
Location: Gunpo, Gyonggi, SoKo

PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you compare that 12,000USD net saved to savings rates in the US, well - you'll quickly see that actually putting away that kind of money is not that easy in the US. Canada is pretty similar. Not sure about other countries.

http://www.bankrate.com/brm/news/sav/20060308a1.asp

The US actually has a NEGATIVE savings rate! People are spending more than they earn.

Also - if you're putting away a solid 12,000 USD a year, with compiound interest it would add up pretty quickly.

Use this:

http://www.moneychimp.com/calculator/compound_interest_calculator.htm - Compund interest calculator.

Punch in 0 for Current principal, 12000 for annual addition, 10 years at 5% = ~$158,500. So in 10 years you could buy a whole house in texas somewhere. 5% ia pretty conservative too...
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naturegirl321



Joined: 18 Jul 2006
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thing is here in Peru, we're saving that much. And we speak the language are legal to work and have connections. So for us to go to Korea, we'd have to be able to save more than we do here.

About the compound interest thing, do you really have a bank that pay 5%? My US bank pays 1% and my Peruvian one pays 3.5%.
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IlIlNine



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://home.ingdirect.com/products/products.asp?s=OrangeCD

There you go -- a 5,35%/year with no market risk. That's why I said that I was being conservative. If you are willing to accept more risk, your earning potential grows (with funds, etc.)
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naturegirl321



Joined: 18 Jul 2006
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IlIlNine wrote:
http://home.ingdirect.com/products/products.asp?s=OrangeCD

There you go -- a 5,35%/year with no market risk. That's why I said that I was being conservative. If you are willing to accept more risk, your earning potential grows (with funds, etc.)


Wow, thanks a lot. My home bank has CDs for 2K at 3.25%. I read through the info, but couldn't find the minimum you need to start the account. DO you know what it is?
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jajdude



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 10:28 pm    Post subject: Re: save and wait Reply with quote

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So saving 1 million a month seems to be the norm.



Nope, don't believe it. I'd say the average person saves maybe half that. I don't believe half the crap on this site.

"Dude, like cool, I'm pulling 5 mil a month cuz I'm white and talk good."

Nonsense.
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sojourner1



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, I must be doing better than the average person by saving 1.0 to 1.2 mil won per month and putting it in an HSBC oline savings account based in the states that pays 5.05% interest with no fees. My take home runs about 1.7 mil won a month and then bills usually run another 100,000 won per month. Food and vacation are my major expenses here so far.

If I was in Seoul more often, I doubt I could save that much since Itaewon is so pleasant to eat, drink, and socialize in with there being good Erdinger beer, great food, and many cool foreigners and English speaking Koreans to hang out with. It's easy to blow 50,000 to 100,000 won a day in Seoul.
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ontheway



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have no idea what the "norm" is for saving in Korea. I can assure you, however, that it is quite possible to save US $2000 per month and easy to save $1500 on a base salary of 2.2 million.

Since your housing and airfare are paid and you'll probably get a little overtime, an extra month's pay bonus, plus your pension payout when you leave (another 9% or about 1 more month's pay), you have to spend rather foolishly in Korea in order to NOT save $18,000 in a year.

Of course, it is much easier to save outside of Seoul (and probably a couple of other large cities). The cost of living is much lower in medium and small cities.

There are plenty of people who like to live the high life when they are young, and complain about being poor when they are older. There are others who enjoy being frugal and find frivolous spending to be tedious and boring. But, IF you want or need to save a lot of money, you can in Korea.
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hubba bubba



Joined: 24 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

naturegirl321 wrote:
Thing is here in Peru, we're saving that much. And we speak the language are legal to work and have connections. So for us to go to Korea, we'd have to be able to save more than we do here.

About the compound interest thing, do you really have a bank that pay 5%? My US bank pays 1% and my Peruvian one pays 3.5%.


I thought wages were really low in Peru. How can you save so much?
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naturegirl321



Joined: 18 Jul 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hubba bubba wrote:
naturegirl321 wrote:
Thing is here in Peru, we're saving that much. And we speak the language are legal to work and have connections. So for us to go to Korea, we'd have to be able to save more than we do here.

About the compound interest thing, do you really have a bank that pay 5%? My US bank pays 1% and my Peruvian one pays 3.5%.


I thought wages were really low in Peru. How can you save so much?


They are really low, about five USD an hour, but after being here a while, you get connections. I work in a school, so I get 15 salaries a year, no tax. I also work part time at a uni, no tax again, and part time online. So I work about 60 hours a week. WE're really frugal and live off of my husband's income. So we can save at least 1K USD a month, max savings would be 1700 USD for us.
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