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What's a chav?
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applesandshanana



Joined: 09 May 2007
Location: Michigan

PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This reminds me of the first time I found out what a moll is.
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SPINOZA



Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Location: $eoul

PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alyallen wrote:
reactionary wrote:
looks like they took a hint or two from guidos as well.


They actually look like the "Russian Mafia" that ran in my school. Track suits, gold link chains, hair gel that last for days and somewhat snotty attitudes....Mind you this was back in 95~99.


No snotty attitudes in chavs. Totally the opposite end of society.

Social class in Britain is an objective feature of a person, like racial features. Social class can be immediately identified by taking the briefest of looks at a person or by the sound of a heavy regional accent (regardless of the region). In the US, that's far less so, since a person may look and sound lower class and poor, but may well have a very large property and blue collar wealth (way less common in Britain). In the UK, it's uncommon for a person of the lower classes to break out of their social class. I would say that 90% at least of the lower class simply replaces itself, with sibblings growing up to be their parents.

BTW, I've deliberately used the term 'lower class' rather than 'working class' because elsewhere in the world 'working class' has a slightly different meaning to a common British usage and this confuses the reader. 'Working class' is a purely descriptive term elsewhere, but in Britain it can be a term of endearment or be used as a term of abuse in social class snobbery, depending on the intentions (and usually social class) of the user.

Chavs and chav-mocking are so mainstream now that it's no longer fun to take the piss out of them. Chavs and their uniform and other stereotypes associated with them should be viewed as a very exaggerated version of the thing about social class I described in paragraph 2. Rather than slowly disappear from British society as optimistic observers like to say, social class divisions are increasingly pronounced.
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