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Tony_Balony

Joined: 12 Apr 2007
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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 8:32 am Post subject: Good Luck Tommy |
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Tommy Thompson was a greatly underrated presidential candidate and a spark of hope for the US. He was a Republican but didn't come with Moral Majority type baggage so we were free from subsequent related dumb issues. He wasn't a workaholic, we was an effective-a-holic. His 4 terms as governer were scandal free and brutally effective. He is also charisma free. He didn't shy from complex, unattractive or substantial issues. Our bad judgement, our bad.
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After a sixth-place finish in Saturday’s Iowa Straw Poll, Tommy Thompson, the four-term governor of Wisconsin and former secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services, said he was ending his presidential bid.
Mr. Thompson’s campaign issued a statement tonight confirming his decision to drop out of the race:
“I want to thank the people of Iowa who were welcoming and supportive as well as my volunteers and contributors from around the country,” Mr. Thompson said in the statement. “I have no regrets about running. I felt my record as Governor of Wisconsin and Secretary of Health and Human Services gave me the experience I needed to serve as President, but I respect the decision of the voters. I am leaving the campaign trail today, but I will not leave the challenges of improving health care and welfare in America.” |
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stevemcgarrett

Joined: 24 Mar 2006
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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 2:58 am Post subject: |
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Tony Balony:
I'm guessing from the Oscar Meyer's luncheon meat and your interest in Thompson that you're from Wisconsin, since OM is based in Madison? (I love and miss OM cold cuts--especially "Old Fashioned Loaf").
Tommy was a good, solid governor, as you know elected to office four times. He spearheaded welfare reform, which later became the model for the Clinton Administration after Gingrich and the '94 Congress nudged him to see the light. He is not an idealogue, as you correctly observed.
But he has little charisma, which is almost necessary to become president in the media sound byte age. I rooted for him as a favorite son but felt from the get-go that the prospect was bleak.
Wisconsin hasn't had a viable presidential candidate since Bob LaFollette on the Progressive Party ticket back a century ago.
Senator Russ Feingold fancies himself in this role but it ain't going to happen. He's divorced, nasty at times, and too partisan, though admittedly very bright |
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Tony_Balony

Joined: 12 Apr 2007
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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 3:31 am Post subject: |
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stevemcgarrett I have to compliment you on yet another excellent post Steve. All good on all points. Feingold isn't going anywhere. He went on a few exploratory introductions trips to red states but was not well recieved.
Yes, OM is Madison is a based company and to be honest, I can't think of any other baloney companies. Thats credit to OM's weinermobile ad campaign and catchy song.
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Oh, I wish I were an Oscar Mayer wiener
That is what I truly want to be
'Cause if I were an Oscar Mayer wiener
Everyone would be in love with me. |
I'm not sure if I really approve of my avatar because I feel OM products are inducive to overeating and contribute to America's obesity epidemic. |
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sundubuman
Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Location: seoul
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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 9:16 am Post subject: |
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I don't think the state of Wisconsin, nor the country for that matter, not to mention the world at large....
was quite ready for a cheesehead-in-chief....
Maybe in another couple generations people can imagine a Wisconsinite as President.....maybe.... |
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stevemcgarrett

Joined: 24 Mar 2006
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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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sub:
I know you're comment was made half in jest but the cheesehead thing was started by rabid Green Bay Packer fans years ago and quickly caught on as a form of fun and self-deprecation, something East Coast snobs (not saying you're one) could learn from.
At the risk of being overly defensive, Wisconsin has one of the finest public school systems in America, consistenly ranks first in SAT scores, and is home to one of the top universities in the world in Madison.
So we're hardly a bunch of hayseeds.
In fact, I think the country desperately needs a true Midwesterner at the helm (Reagan came from small town Illinois but was too influenced by California). Midwesterners are known for common sense and a level-headed opinion of themselves. Eisenhower and Truman were both from the Midwest. Need I say more? |
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keane
Joined: 09 Jul 2007
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Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 12:01 am Post subject: Re: Good Luck Tommy |
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Tony_Balony wrote: |
Tommy Thompson was a greatly underrated presidential candidate and a spark of hope for the US. He was a Republican but didn't come with Moral Majority type baggage so we were free from subsequent related dumb issues. He wasn't a workaholic, we was an effective-a-holic. His 4 terms as governer were scandal free and brutally effective. He is also charisma free. He didn't shy from complex, unattractive or substantial issues. Our bad judgement, our bad.
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After a sixth-place finish in Saturday�s Iowa Straw Poll, Tommy Thompson, the four-term governor of Wisconsin and former secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services, said he was ending his presidential bid.
Mr. Thompson�s campaign issued a statement tonight confirming his decision to drop out of the race:
�I want to thank the people of Iowa who were welcoming and supportive as well as my volunteers and contributors from around the country,� Mr. Thompson said in the statement. �I have no regrets about running. I felt my record as Governor of Wisconsin and Secretary of Health and Human Services gave me the experience I needed to serve as President, but I respect the decision of the voters. I am leaving the campaign trail today, but I will not leave the challenges of improving health care and welfare in America.� |
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For a Republican, he was better than most, but not even close to Ron Paul. His stance on stem cells was good; Roe v. Wade, poor.
Stance on gay issues? Extremely poor.
Crime? Mixed.
Education? Terrible.
Energy? Mixed.
Families and children? Pretty good, from what I could find.
Government? Not bad. Too little info.
Health Care: mixed. Doesn't go nearly far enough.
Taxes? Horrid.
I don't know. Not sure we lost a gem here. I will say, again, that of the Republicans, he stands out from most. |
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