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Professors �Routinely Pass Substandard Work�

 
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:09 pm    Post subject: Professors �Routinely Pass Substandard Work� Reply with quote

Some 60-70 percent of advanced degree holders in Korea are unqualified, and professors are to blame for approving substandard work, Sungkyunkwan University art professor Jung Jin-soo said Monday. In a phone interview with the Chosun Ilbo on Monday, Jung said, "I have approved many poorly written dissertations.� He said a scandal surrounding fake degrees from the U.S. was only the tip of the iceberg. �Master's and doctoral theses passed through the legitimate process are also substandard,� he said. �Graduate schools are bent on recruiting students, so they are lenient in approving theses."


"If I were to take issue with the matter by myself, I would have had to quit my chair long ago,� Jung said. �Most college professors are accomplices in this lenient screening. Seventy percent of papers written by professors themselves only to add to their resume are rubbish. They are assessed by colleagues who don't examine one another�s work thoroughly."


Jung teaches at Sungkyunkwan, where Kim Ock-rang, the head of the Dongsoong Art Center and Dankook University professor at the center of the latest fake degree scandal, received her master's and doctorate. Jung graduated from Sogang University in British and American Language and Literature and got his doctorate at the University of Illinois.


Jung�s remarks are likely to put the cat among the pigeons. Already one professor of drama called them �outrageous�, saying many professors examine theses with scholarly integrity.

http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200708/200708140015.html
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flakfizer



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This info surprises me as much as learning that kimchi doesn't actually cure AIDS.
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Dan The Chainsawman



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

flakfizer wrote:
This info surprises me as much as learning that kimchi doesn't actually cure AIDS.


WHAT?????????????? Shocked Shocked Shocked
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BigBuds



Joined: 15 Sep 2005
Location: Changwon

PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Professors �Routinely Pass Substandard Work� Reply with quote

4 months left wrote:
Already one professor of drama called them �outrageous�, saying many professors examine theses with scholarly integrity.


And here I was thinking Koreans don't have a sense of humour. Laughing
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Troll_Bait



Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: [T]eaching experience doesn't matter much. -Lee Young-chan (pictured)

PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kudos to him for speaking out. No surprises, but glad to see someone talk about the elephant in the room. From the last paragraph, the witch-hunt against him has already begun.
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 8:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Professors �Routinely Pass Substandard Work� Reply with quote

BigBuds wrote:
4 months left wrote:
Already one professor of drama called them �outrageous�, saying many professors examine theses with scholarly integrity.


And here I was thinking Koreans don't have a sense of humour. Laughing


Well, that prof is into drama, after all.
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ghostwriters investigated: Firms selling graduate projects face charges.
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According to the prosecution's investigation, most of the fake theses passed examinations. The universities that administered those examinations reportedly included top universities in Seoul. "The customers gave minimal information to the ghostwriters, such as a title and table of contents, and the writers researched and found references," said prosecutor Park Seong-hoon.

A professor who was part of an examination committee that accepted several ghostwritten theses said, "The quality of the theses was poor, but I didn't want to disqualify them. I never knew they were written by others."

Ghostwriters investigated: Firms selling graduate projects face charges. by Kang Joo-an, JoongAng Daily (March 17, 2003)
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=1949410

Ghostwriters Enjoy Boom
By Kang Shin-who, Korea Times (September 28, 2006)
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/news_view.asp?newsIdx=2981632

Integrity of university professors by Chung Yeon-ho, Korea Herald (July 1, 2004)
http://www.koreaherald.co.kr/SITE/data/html_dir/2004/07/01/200407010011.asp

Two Thousand Two Hundred Sixty-eight Non-tenure Track Professors on the Edge
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Regular professors work about 6 - 9 hours a week,....
There are 2,268 non-tenure track professors working in 104 universities, including the ones appointed in 2003. The average teaching time is 10.9 hours a week, which is relatively more than regular professors, but they are paid only 79.3 percent on average compared to regular professors.

Two Thousand Two Hundred Sixty-eight Non-tenure Track Professors on the Edge
Donga.com (October 18, 2006)
http://english.donga.com/srv/service.php3?biid=2006101884668

Foreign scholars merit equal status: The foreign professor -- colleague or hired hand?
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[foreign professors] do most of the heavy lifting in terms of course loads, devoting themselves almost exclusively to teaching. Nevertheless, they tend to be treated as hired hands, without academic standing, and lacking the possibility of career advancement or tenure. They must submit to yearly contracts (compensated at a rate only 60 percent of their Korean peers) while walled off from the permanent Korean faculty who benefit from travel, research funding, sabbaticals, etc. Moreover, when hundreds of Korean scholars enjoy such perks at American and other foreign universities, something is obviously amiss.

John B. Kotch, JoongAng Ilbo (June 14, 2002)
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=1904927

College Professor in Korea: Annual Average Wage: 69,070,000 won
http://know.work.go.kr/know/sub4/result_0.asp?search_code=04111&search_name=인문계열교수

THE KOREAN DOUBLE-STANDARD: SALARY SCALES FOR FOREIGN PROFS
Author: stevemcgarrett; Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=71011
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kermo



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I mark my college students based on 10% attendance, 10% participation, 80% exam work.

My colleagues factor in intangibles like "sincerity" when marking the students, but I try to make it as objective as possible (I give stamps to keep track of in-class work, for example, instead of guessing at the end of the year.)

However, if I were to give these students the marks they deserve, the majority would be between 0-50%. I do teach at a particularly goofy college, but the effort the kids put in is pretty depressing. No matter whether students show up to class or write exams, I'm not allowed to fail them.

Here's the rubric I drew up which satisfied my department head:
0 = D
1-30= C-
30-50=C
50-60=C+
60-70=B
70-80=B+
80-90=A
90-100=A+
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just another day



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kermo wrote:
I mark my college students based on 10% attendance, 10% participation, 80% exam work.

My colleagues factor in intangibles like "sincerity" when marking the students, but I try to make it as objective as possible (I give stamps to keep track of in-class work, for example, instead of guessing at the end of the year.)

However, if I were to give these students the marks they deserve, the majority would be between 0-50%. I do teach at a particularly goofy college, but the effort the kids put in is pretty depressing. No matter whether students show up to class or write exams, I'm not allowed to fail them.

Here's the rubric I drew up which satisfied my department head:
0 = D
1-30= C-
30-50=C
50-60=C+
60-70=B
70-80=B+
80-90=A
90-100=A+


omg haha. horrendous... Laughing

hmm maybe toeic or toefl classes would be more of a satsifactory challenge type of grading?? yeah its pretty hard to fail out of college in korea in general.
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

University Professor Fakes Credentials
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Jung Duck-hee, professor of Myongji University, was revealed Monday to have faked her academic records.

Jung admitted her forgery, but refuted that her publishers and publicists were the real culprits.

She told the magazine that the society drove her to exaggerate her records. Governmental organizations and big companies always welcomed people with more academic profiles and so did the others. Therefore, she had no reason to correct her profile, she reportedly said. "Korean society always weighs on outlooks of a person. I always tried to tell people that I am a high school graduate but no one seemed to want to listen to it. I always suffered from the fact that I am not well educated," she said.

University Professor Fakes Credentials By Bae Ji-sook, Korea Times (August 13, 2007)
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2007/08/117_8239.html

"Regular professors work about 6 - 9 hours a week,..."
Two Thousand Two Hundred Sixty-eight Non-tenure Track Professors on the Edge
Donga.com (October 18, 2006)
http://english.donga.com/srv/service.php3?biid=2006101884668

College Professor in Korea: Annual Average Wage: 69,070,000 won
http://know.work.go.kr/know/sub4/result_0.asp?search_code=04111&search_name=인문계열교수
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