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Yeah - today is the anniversary Koreans FREED THEMSELVES....
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Yesterday



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Land of the Morning DongChim (Kancho)

PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 4:03 am    Post subject: Yeah - today is the anniversary Koreans FREED THEMSELVES.... Reply with quote

maybe - I just had a bad today - but hey.......

Today is the anniversary of the day - that the USA, England, Australia NZ etc etc etc GOT the Japanese people OUT OFF Korean and liberated (made free) the Korean people....

Today is what Korean people call "Independence day" (from Japan)...

and what have Koreans done to thank us??????????

discrimate against us....

blame us for all their problems....

place restrictive banking placed on us....
(why would anyone want to teach in a country - where all the money THEY EARN - is NOT allowed to be sent back to that persons home country).... - which is coming into law in a couple of months....

abuse us.....

maybe - we should have left Japan here.........?

what else can you think of to celebrate today?

(Don't forget - during WWII - even Korean soldiers were fighting AGAINST us - on the side of the Japense forces in Philippines etc)....

we helped them........... and still are... but for what?

today the Korean people celebrate" How they got themselves liberated from Japan".....

and for the other 364 days of the year - they will blame us "Waegukins" for all their problems...... including how we keep them down... impoverished... etc etc....

can we ask the Japanese to come back...?


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Atavistic



Joined: 22 May 2006
Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 4:08 am    Post subject: Re: Yeah - today we gave Korea their freedom? Reply with quote

Yesterday wrote:

what else can you think of to celebrate today?


Not having to teach camp.

And my Korean boyfriend who help navigate all of the BS of Korean society.

And my Korean "family" who thanked me yesterday "for bombing Japan."
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wo buxihuan hanguoren



Joined: 18 Apr 2007
Location: Suyuskis

PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a link on rjkoehler.com to the English version of the speech the pres of Korea gave today - funny as how he makes it sound as Koreans liberated themselves...
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The poster Yesterday sure seems like the opinion-expressing side of fact-touting Real Reality.
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Yesterday



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Land of the Morning DongChim (Kancho)

PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

VanIslander wrote:
The poster Yesterday sure seems like the opinion-expressing side of fact-touting Real Reality.


yesterday is yesterday...

today just a few-too-many-koreans pissssed me off - whilst they were celebrating the day "they grew balls and freed themselves from Japanese oppression".....
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princess



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: soul of Asia

PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 4:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

heh.heh.heh...Koreans and their little inferiority/superiority complexes...But hey, they gave me a day off to sleep, and one less day of rugrats, so I thank them.
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exit86



Joined: 17 May 2006

PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a question to Yesterday or anyone who may know:
What legislation might be passed concerning sending money back to our home countries? Any links or anything else to explain this more in detail?
Doesn't seem altogether right.

Yesterday, I feel your pain and frustration. I think a lot of people are down these days. I attribute it to the monsoon season (though our trusty Korean meteorologists insist that "Changma" started way back in June--when it never rained--and ended several weeks ago--when it began pouring and hasn't stopped yet. As opposed to admitting any type of misreading of the weather--which is inevitable in that profession--our faithful, all-knowing meteorologists saved face by saying this year is a freak occurence. It happens just like this every year though.)


Anyway, about all of the other frustrating things in your list, like my favorite song says, let's just "Blame it on the Rain."
Ain't nobody else gonna take responsibility in this very foreign land for all of the illogical, irrational, bass ackwards schtuff that tends to frustrate the hell out of your every-day, garden-variety individual with a working brain.
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Civic Groups Rally to Remove War Hero Statue
Quote:
The group, the Special Committee to Get Rid of MacArthur's Statue, plans to rally on July 17, Korea�s Constitution Day. The statue was erected in 1957 to commemorate the September 1950 landing of the United Nations troops, led by Gen. MacArthur, which marked a crucial turning point in the war against North Korean forces. "The U.S. military pretended to be an emancipator or savior of Koreans during the war," said Kim Su-nam, 63, who heads the group. "But they were nothing but another invader to replace Japan."

Civic groups rally to remove war hero statue
JoongAng Daily (June 28, 2005)
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2587104

Cockeyed nationalism
Quote:
We are concerned that a few opposition groups advocating the removal of U.S. General Douglas MacArthur's statue from Incheon�s Freedom Park are becoming more organized in their operations. Repeated demonstrations are now just the basics. Recently, a professor wrote in a published article that the "statue of war-crazy MacArthur must be thrown back into history." Then came a song with lyrics such as "General MacArthur is a murderer" that is currently being widely distributed. At a rally yesterday, demonstrators yelled that the statue of General MacArthur -- "which symbolizes occupation and slaughter" ― will soon be dismantled.

Cockeyed nationalism from JoongAng Daily (September 11, 2005)
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2616932

Seoul restaurants bar US diners
BBC NEWS, Asia-Pacific (November 28, 2002)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/2523237.stm


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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

EDIT: you know RR, I usually dig your links and all... but come on man, that pic is from 2002. Confused



I was asking a whole bunch of my Korean friends about this holiday yesterday, they're responses were interesting:

"it's the day Korea gained independence"

"it's the day Japan surrendered"

"it was when the Japanese left"

All of the comments revolved around the same. When I asked them "hey, why did the Japanese surrender?" We eventually found our way to the two bombs.

What was more interesting was the converstations that followed. I taold them that I sometimes read the North Korean news, and that all too often it attributes the defeat of the Japanese to Kim Il-sung and his merry band of freedom fighters. When they hear that, they laugh.

Even to them it sounds ridiculous.

But when I mention the fact that they omitted a major part of the reason for Japan's defeat (possibly the largest part), they thought that was even more interesting (no one denied it... they honestly gave it some thought).

One asked - "so, do the French still think that the Americans helped them in WWII?"

Luckily, Sarkozy had done just that a few days ago (for my point at least).

When I asked if they thought Noh would do the same, they (all) just laughed. The rest of the conversation turned into how bad of a president he was (which is always a fun topic for me as well).
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Vicissitude



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yesterday, thanks for that. It just made me puke up my dinner! Nothing against you or anything, but what you said was true and it makes me sick. My two grandfathers were on two ships that were instrumental in fighting the Japanese. They played a pivotal role in winning WW2. I can hear my one grandfather rolling over in his grave right now thinking that Koreans were taking so much credit for doing absolutely nothing. These people are insufferable. You know the Japanese wouldn't go back now for all the tea in China. They are too busy inventing and manufacturing things that really matter in this world.

So what's with this new banking policy happening in two months? So you can't take the money you save home with you? What's the point of going to Korea in the first place if you can't keep what you earn? Will they call the cops and put you in jail if you go to the bank to withdraw all your money and say it's to take back home?
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LuckyNomad



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 6:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Koreans certainly did not liberate themselves.

But then again, how often do we Americans ever talk about how the French contributed to our own independence, or how the British were off battling for sugar islands or for Malaya at the same time.
All countries pick and choose their history. I'm sure the French don't blab on about how the Americans and British had to come and save them either.
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IncognitoHFX



Joined: 06 May 2007
Location: Yeongtong, Suwon

PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 6:25 am    Post subject: Re: Yeah - today is the anniversary Koreans FREED THEMSELVES Reply with quote

Yesterday wrote:
(why would anyone want to teach in a country - where all the money THEY EARN - is NOT allowed to be sent back to that persons home country).... - which is coming into law in a couple of months....


I don't think thats entirely accurate. I think its just a limit of 10k per year. Someone clarify? This has got me worried. I have many-a-loans back home.
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
EDIT: you know RR, I usually dig your links and all... but come on man, that pic is from 2002. :?


http://www.dprkstudies.org/documents/anti-us003.html

http://usinkorea.org/issues/teaching/index.htm

Training range break-in with different spin in media
http://usinkorea.org/issues/BASE_INVASION/index.html
http://usinkorea.org/issues/BASE_INVASION/illegal_flag_burning.jpg


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doggyji



Joined: 21 Feb 2006
Location: Toronto - Hamilton - Vineland - St. Catherines

PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As in Captain Corea's story above, the fact that the two American bombs nailed it is only so common knowledge. No strawman, please.

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doggyji



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dp. sorry.
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