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Have you ever met a bad student?

 
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mrsquirrel



Joined: 13 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 3:36 pm    Post subject: Have you ever met a bad student? Reply with quote

Have you ever met a bad student? Not a student with discipline problems or wh doesn't do their homework, but a genuinely bad student who is on the way to a life of crime.

Back home in the UK when I was at school (a good school at that) there were several boys at school who were on their way towards being locked up or career criminals. They were bad, everybody knew it. They did end up being in trouble with the law. Some are banged up, some are on the run and some are still going about their business.

Working in Thailand and Korea I have never met any students yet that were like this. None which were obviously heading on a different path to everybody else.

Have you met any like this?
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koon_taung_daeng



Joined: 28 Jan 2007
Location: south korea

PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ive only taught elementary so i have yet to meet any students that i knew where going to go to jail, but when i was in high school half of my friends ended up in jail because they were too lazy to go to college and thought selling drugs would be easier, so stupid
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bellum99



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: don't need to know

PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I taught a true psycho...I mean he lacked any real empathy or thought of other people. He stabbed a kid next to him in the hand with a pencil for no reason and laughed (kid went to the hospital). Then he threw a pencil and hit next to my eye and clapped and laughed about it. The kid was like ten years old. Eventually his mother quit the school...I mean she quit...the director wouldn't kick the monster out.
He was going to eventually get old enough to have trouble with the police.
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yingwenlaoshi



Joined: 12 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know, but if I ever meet a student like that they'll be getting some creative English names. Like Charlie Manson or Ted Bundy.
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koon_taung_daeng



Joined: 28 Jan 2007
Location: south korea

PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if a kid ever threw a pencil at my face i would launch him straight at the door and scream at him untilled he pissed himself in front of everyone
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cbclark4



Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan

PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a middle school kid who spits at all the other kids, I mean all of them even the ones that look like they could tear him apart.

The other day he stuck a sewing needle through his ear lobe in the middle of class (Summer Camp). One of his class mates took a picture on his cell phone. He did not return to class the following day, and I haven't seen him since.
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mrsquirrel



Joined: 13 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not mental kids.

I'm talking about kids who are on their way to prison rather than university.
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LuckyNomad



Joined: 28 May 2007

PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have quite a few students who I know are destined for a life of Chinese Food delivery/PC bang living.
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VirginIslander



Joined: 24 May 2006
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I worked at a detention center for "bad boys" for three months. Very sad
situation. It tested me more than I have ever been tested. And I was only a counselor, or enforcer.

Several had HIV. How do you tell a 15 year old boy--and his mother gave him HIV---that he should study math and science because he'll really needs to know about earthquakes and equations during his last three years on this Earth.

Or, the 19 year old rapist who had to be released because he was too old for the program. But, we all knew that he would rape again and then be sent to prison.

Or, the 16 year old gang banger who had a third grade education?

Or, the 12 year old boy who was molested by his step parents?

Or, the Cambodian with severe depression who couldn't speak English but was thrown into this program with everybody else.

Or, the Crack Baby.

Or, the Dominican who was usually friendly, but occasionally very violent. It got to the point where the other counselors has to literally punch him in has face to prevent him from fighting. I saw that on my first day.

Or, Ray. Who had a cold, disturbing look in his eyes. He was only a child but you could tell he loved nothing in the world and nothing ever loved him



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I'm talking about kids who are on their way to prison rather than university


They are not mutually exclusive.
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bosintang



Joined: 01 Dec 2003
Location: In the pot with the rest of the mutts

PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrsquirrel wrote:
Not mental kids.

I'm talking about kids who are on their way to prison rather than university.



Well, it's hard to tell at the MS school level, and you (we) probably don't get told very much by the Korean homeroom teachers who would know more about the students homelives.

I do know one 1st grade student I taught has been in trouble with the police and for stealing money from other students. He came to school many days after spending the nights in PCbangs because he got kicked out of his house, and promptly slept through 1st class he had with me. In fact, of maybe the half-dozen times he ever showed up in my class, I don't ever remember him once being awake. He's no longer at our school. I don't know why.
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