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Plz help: traveling with herb pills thru SE Asian customs

 
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davester13



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 4:28 pm    Post subject: Plz help: traveling with herb pills thru SE Asian customs Reply with quote

I'll be going on a 3-month backpacking trip to Singapore and other SE Asian destinations, and I need to bring with me a large supply of herbal dietary supplements for health maintenance (no, not THOSE herbs). Although luggage checks are random, I'm concerned I could have problems with customs.

I'm concerned about two things: 1) the large quantity I'll be bringing (6 bags of about 360 count 1,000 mg capsules)

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2) the fact that they will be in clear zip-lock bags with no labels identifying the contents (there is no original packaging with labeling because my nutritionist receives these herbs in bulk, and then passes them on to me).

The Singapore customs Web site states a person can bring a 3-month supply of "medicines" without declaring anything or getting special permission, as long as they aren't controlled substances (mine aren't). But he or she must have accompanying documents, such as "a physician's note and/or prescription" (I can get a note but obviously not a prescription since they are natural herbs).

But, will a note from a herbalist/nutritionist be enough? Many questions naturally arise from the site's declared requirements, such as, what constitutes "medicines"? And, how much is a 3-month supply?

By the way, I'm concerned not only about Singapore, but also other airport customs and border crossings for the countries I'll be visiting: Thailand, Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam, Malaysia, Indonesia. (I mentioned Singapore first since I'll be flying there first and they ostensibly have the strictest regulations for these kinds of things).

One obvious next step is to send a query to Singapore customs (they have a site organized for such queries). But, what else could I do? Should I consider avoiding Singapore altogether? Should I take a chance with the random bag checks and hope my note from my nutritionist is enough? What are your thoughts?

Please send along any information or suggestions which might be helpful. Thanks.
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Location: Left Korea in 2008. Hong Kong now.

PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Plz help: traveling with herb pills thru SE Asian custom Reply with quote

davester13 wrote:
I'll be going on a 3-month backpacking trip to Singapore and other SE Asian destinations, and I need to bring with me a large supply of herbal dietary supplements for health maintenance (no, not THOSE herbs). Although luggage checks are random, I'm concerned I could have problems with customs.

I'm concerned about two things: 1) the large quantity I'll be bringing (6 bags of about 360 count 1,000 mg capsules)

and

2) the fact that they will be in clear zip-lock bags with no labels identifying the contents (there is no original packaging with labeling because my nutritionist receives these herbs in bulk, and then passes them on to me).

The Singapore customs Web site states a person can bring a 3-month supply of "medicines" without declaring anything or getting special permission, as long as they aren't controlled substances (mine aren't). But he or she must have accompanying documents, such as "a physician's note and/or prescription" (I can get a note but obviously not a prescription since they are natural herbs).

But, will a note from a herbalist/nutritionist be enough? Many questions naturally arise from the site's declared requirements, such as, what constitutes "medicines"? And, how much is a 3-month supply?

By the way, I'm concerned not only about Singapore, but also other airport customs and border crossings for the countries I'll be visiting: Thailand, Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam, Malaysia, Indonesia. (I mentioned Singapore first since I'll be flying there first and they ostensibly have the strictest regulations for these kinds of things).

One obvious next step is to send a query to Singapore customs (they have a site organized for such queries). But, what else could I do? Should I consider avoiding Singapore altogether? Should I take a chance with the random bag checks and hope my note from my nutritionist is enough? What are your thoughts?

Please send along any information or suggestions which might be helpful. Thanks.


Traveling with plastic bags of pills and no labels is a bad idea. While there's no guarantee you'll be stopped (are you putting the pills in your checked baggage or your hand luggage?), it's not worth the risk. If you fly into Kuala Lumpur's low-cost terminal, even the green customs lanes (nothing to declare) officers do a lot of bag checks. (Not the case at the main terminal.)

Is it possible that you can buy some of these things in the countries you're visiting? A lot of herbal supplements are available in Singapore and Malaysia at reasonable prices. If it's possible to travel with the minimum necessary, and buy on arrival, it might be safer.

At the very least, a note from your nutritionist would be wise, but I still think it's unwise to travel in the region with unmarked bags of capsules. It's worth querying Singapore Customs for your own peace of mind. Good luck with that.
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davester13



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 9:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Plz help: traveling with herb pills thru SE Asian custom Reply with quote

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davester13 wrote:
I'll be going on a 3-month backpacking trip to Singapore and other SE Asian destinations, and I need to bring with me a large supply of herbal dietary supplements for health maintenance (no, not THOSE herbs). Although luggage checks are random, I'm concerned I could have problems with customs.

I'm concerned about two things: 1) the large quantity I'll be bringing (6 bags of about 360 count 1,000 mg capsules)

and

2) the fact that they will be in clear zip-lock bags with no labels identifying the contents (there is no original packaging with labeling because my nutritionist receives these herbs in bulk, and then passes them on to me).

The Singapore customs Web site states a person can bring a 3-month supply of "medicines" without declaring anything or getting special permission, as long as they aren't controlled substances (mine aren't). But he or she must have accompanying documents, such as "a physician's note and/or prescription" (I can get a note but obviously not a prescription since they are natural herbs).

But, will a note from a herbalist/nutritionist be enough? Many questions naturally arise from the site's declared requirements, such as, what constitutes "medicines"? And, how much is a 3-month supply?

By the way, I'm concerned not only about Singapore, but also other airport customs and border crossings for the countries I'll be visiting: Thailand, Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam, Malaysia, Indonesia. (I mentioned Singapore first since I'll be flying there first and they ostensibly have the strictest regulations for these kinds of things).

One obvious next step is to send a query to Singapore customs (they have a site organized for such queries). But, what else could I do? Should I consider avoiding Singapore altogether? Should I take a chance with the random bag checks and hope my note from my nutritionist is enough? What are your thoughts?

Please send along any information or suggestions which might be helpful. Thanks.


Traveling with plastic bags of pills and no labels is a bad idea. While there's no guarantee you'll be stopped (are you putting the pills in your checked baggage or your hand luggage?), it's not worth the risk. If you fly into Kuala Lumpur's low-cost terminal, even the green customs lanes (nothing to declare) officers do a lot of bag checks. (Not the case at the main terminal.)

Is it possible that you can buy some of these things in the countries you're visiting? A lot of herbal supplements are available in Singapore and Malaysia at reasonable prices. If it's possible to travel with the minimum necessary, and buy on arrival, it might be safer.

At the very least, a note from your nutritionist would be wise, but I still think it's unwise to travel in the region with unmarked bags of capsules. It's worth querying Singapore Customs for your own peace of mind. Good luck with that.


First, I thought I'd put these herbs in my checked baggage. Second, in addition to the note from my nutritionist, I will have each bag clearly marked with the name of the herb; it's not an official label, of course, but it's the best I can do. Finally, getting these herbs in other countries will not be a feasible option; they are not commonly marketed herbs.

Do they conduct just as many bag searches at border crossings as they do at some airports? Of all these places-----Thailand, Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam, Malaysia, Singapore, and Indonesia-----which might I expect to have stricter regulations, tighter controls, and, thus, more bag searches?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure. The times I've travelled in SE Asia, I've always flown from country to country; except for my first trip from Singapore to Malaysia 7 years ago, I've never crossed a land border in the region.

One random idea would be to declare the supplements when you arrive in Singapore. If you're not planning to travel with illegal substances, just go through the red lanes at customs and tell the officials what you've got with you. I assume your note from your herbalist will include contact information. This approach might be swatting a fly with a sledgehammer, but if you're worried, it would give you a more predictable outcome.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Singnapore is said to be the strictest country in the world when it comes to drugs or anything that could be drugs. You can bet they will think you packed something else into those capsules. Since it's not illegal stuff, just pack them in your carry on and let them take a look. You might be fine and at worst, they will take them.

When I came to Korea, I had an unopened bottle of vitamin pills in my checked bag and they were confiscated.

I would try carrying them in original containers in my carry on as we were always told to pack pills in our carry on bags.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sojourner1 wrote:
Singnapore is said to be the strictest country in the world when it comes to drugs or anything that could be drugs. You can bet they will think you packed something else into those capsules.


From Singapore, I'll be going to Bali and after returning, I'll be going to some place like Vietnam. Would it be wiser to skip Singapore and fly into Kuala Lumpur and use it as a base instead of Singapore, or would these countries be just as strict? Also, what about border crossings? Just as regimented as airport customs?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sojourner1 wrote:
I would try carrying them in original containers in my carry on as we were always told to pack pills in our carry on bags.


Hmmm. I've heard from a couple of people to carry them in my checked luggage. Why carry-ons? To be up-front about it all and show them I've got nothing to hide?
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OiGirl



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

davester13 wrote:
sojourner1 wrote:
I would try carrying them in original containers in my carry on as we were always told to pack pills in our carry on bags.


Hmmm. I've heard from a couple of people to carry them in my checked luggage. Why carry-ons? To be up-front about it all and show them I've got nothing to hide?

I think that is standard advice, just that you might need easy access to them (although of course not in those quantities.) Other people have shared stories here, though, that vitamins and such were confiscated without notice from checked bags. So I carry mine, even a year's supply, in my carryon. At least they're light!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thailand, Cambodia, Laos, Vietnam, Malaysia, Indonesia and Singapore with a huge bag of herbal supplements!!!!
Not the greatest idea I've ever heard. If you get searched expect LONG delays. A note from a nutritionist won't fly.
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davester13



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sojourner1 wrote:
I would try carrying them in original containers in my carry on as we were always told to pack pills in our carry on bags.


I understand having them in original containers, but I would think customs would require them to be in unopened, sealed containers to prove I didn't place substances in them other than what's listed on the labels. But if this is true, then that means I would have to finish an opened bottle of supplements before traveling to another country, as they would potentially be confiscated. Does this sound right?
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