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[johnevandavid]

While watching the HK movie "A Battle of Wits" with one of my co-workers (a quasi-historical drama), I was told that there was also a famous female general in Korea, who later married one of the Chosun (?) kings.

Anybody know her name?

[SuperFly]

Crazy Cat Lady

[neandergirl]

Superfly, I wouldn't have given you my picture if I'd realized you were going to share it with all and sundry.

[SuperFly]

That woman might be So Suh Noh OP...(Just before Koreo Dynasty) she made her husband a King of Koreo dynasty...there was a movie about this...

[browneyedgirl]

[quote="johnevandavid"]I was told that there was also a famous female general in Korea, who later married one of the Chosun (?) kings.
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I'm surprised that hasn't been turned into a new K-drama (or has it?)

[Troll_Bait]

[SuperFly]

TB,

After I made my little joke in post number 2 of this thread, I yelled downstairs to my wife: "HEY WAS THERE A WOMAN WHO WAS A GENERAL/MILITARY STRATEGIST THAT MARRIED SOME KING IN CHOSUN DYNASTY?!"

She said: SHUT UP, I BE COOKIN DINNER AND I'M HOT & TIRED YOU LAZY SOMBITCH!

later, she provided the said information. Said it was made into a movie or something.

[Troll_Bait]

[keane]

Well, MY wife said there was such a lady, rather, there might have been. The figure may be legend.

Outline:

widow
married B-in-L (per custom)
very intelligent
May have loved the second brother in the first place, but had to marry the first husband for some reason.
Contrarily, other info says she was intelligent enough to see that the second brother would be successful, so married him.


That's as much as she knows. Ah, found this:
http://kdaq.empas.com/koreandb/history/kpeople/person_view.html?n=5337
소서노(召西奴)
생몰년 미상. 백제건국설화에 등장하는 비류(沸流)�온조(溫祚)의 어머니.
백제의 건국설화로는 온조왕을 시조로 한 것과 비류왕을 시조로 한 것 등이 있는데, 그는 비류왕을 시조로 전하는 건국설화에만 등장하고 있다.
이에 의하면 그녀는 졸본인(卒本人) 연타발(延陀勃)의 딸로서 처음 북부여왕 해부루(解扶婁)의 서손(庶孫) 우태(優台)와 혼인하여 비류와 온조를 낳았다.
우태가 죽은 뒤 한동안 졸본에서 과부로 살다가, 부여에서 이곳으로 도망해와서 고구려를 건국한 주몽(朱蒙)과 재혼하였고, 고구려의 창업을 위하여 많은 내조를 하였다고 한다.
그러나 주몽이 부여에 있을 때 혼인한 예씨(禮氏)의 소생 유류(儒留, 일명 類利)가 고구려로 와서 태자로 책봉됨에, 왕위계승권을 잃어버린 비류와 온조가 새로운 국가의 건설을 위하여 남하하여 미추홀(彌鄒忽)에 정착할 때, 아들들과 동행하였다.
《삼국사기》 백제본기에 온조왕 13년(서기전 6) 온조왕의 어머니가 61세로 죽었다고 하는데, 만약 이것이 소서노를 가리킨 것이라면 그녀의 생몰년은 서기전 66∼서기전 6년이 된다.

서기전 66∼ 서기전 6년이 된다. = 66 BC - 6 BC.


Have at it. (Don't ask me for a translation. I don't have the skills for it.)

Ah, she found more:

'섹슈얼리티'로 분류된 장 안에서는 '소서노' 이야기를 만날 수 있다. 그녀는 왜 우리의 역사에서 삭제되었을까? 그 배경을 추리해보고 있다.


그녀는 비류, 온조 형제끼리 도읍지 선정을 둘러싸고 갈등하는 바람에 크게 상심하며 끝내는 온조에 의해 죽음을 당한다. (중략) 이후 백제사가 온조 중심으로 전개되기 때문에 천륜을 저버린 그(온조)의 실덕을 은폐하기 위해 소서노는 역사에서 삭제된 게 아닐까. 게다가 모성애를 신비화하는 가부장사회로선 아들과 피비린내 나는 권력다툼을 벌인 '나쁜 어머니' 소서노 역시 좋게 봐 줄 수 없었으리라. (53쪽)

Matricide!

More

and more.

I've banned her from any further searches. You're on your own.

Fly true, my babies.

[SuperFly]

Well LA DE DA, your wife did a helluva better job than mine did. And to think she graduated from Hongik university with a degree in EDUCATION!

Biatch!

[johnevandavid]

Well that's a start. I guess somebody will eventually write something about on wikipedia. Thanks.