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Are University jobs the best?

 
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magicmajenta



Joined: 03 Feb 2007
Location: Saint Paul Minnesota

PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 5:41 am    Post subject: Are University jobs the best? Reply with quote

I have been going through the threads here and have been reading about problems with public schools and hogwons with regards to bad employers, co-teachers, working conditions and just getting plain screwed over. I have heard a few times that University positions are the best. The pay may not be as high but you avoid the problems mentioned above. Is this true? I would like to hear people's opinions on University jobs.
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HapKi



Joined: 10 Dec 2004
Location: TALL BUILDING-SEOUL

PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You will not get many university teachers' opinions on this matter, as with the 5 months paid vacation per year, they are presently away from their computers and sunning themselves on a beach in Thailand.

'cept for me. Crying or Very sad
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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HapKi wrote:
You will not get many university teachers' opinions on this matter, as with the 5 months paid vacation per year, they are presently away from their computers and sunning themselves on a beach in Thailand.

'cept for me. Crying or Very sad

and me too... Crying or Very sad

Going through my cellphone of co-workers...I mentally see 'Thailand', 'Canada', 'Philippines', 'USA', 'Mexico/Cuba', etc. in place of their names... Crying or Very sad
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Intrepid



Joined: 13 May 2004
Location: Yongin

PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:18 pm    Post subject: University pay Reply with quote

There are fewer hassles at most universities. Still, looking at job ads, salaries and working conditions are deteriorating at many unis. Look at the Kyung-hee Suwon: 30 million per year, no visa, no housing, fifteen hours per week, and six week summer camp. Amazing.
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hubba bubba



Joined: 24 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, Korean universities are wising up. I'd say in a few years the five month paid vacation will be unheard of.
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Billy Pilgrim



Joined: 08 Sep 2004

PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes.
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Intrepid



Joined: 13 May 2004
Location: Yongin

PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 7:47 pm    Post subject: Unis Reply with quote

Which is ridiculous. I don't think of it as a five-month vacation, but as pay that is pro-rated over the year. I teach 350 hours per semester, and make a decent overall hourly rate for it, but not excessive if you consider that the uni requires an MA. I hope this uni doesn't wise up, except in the little matter of their three-year rule.
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TECO



Joined: 20 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hubba bubba wrote:
Yeah, Korean universities are wising up. I'd say in a few years the five month paid vacation will be unheard of.


It definitely will be for those who aren't qualified to teach at a university in the first place.
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Harpeau



Joined: 01 Feb 2003
Location: Coquitlam, BC

PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I'm happy with the long vacations. I also am traveling at this time.
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Bramble



Joined: 26 Jan 2007
Location: National treasures need homes

PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TECO wrote:
hubba bubba wrote:
Yeah, Korean universities are wising up. I'd say in a few years the five month paid vacation will be unheard of.


It definitely will be for those who aren't qualified to teach at a university in the first place.


But what if everyone runs out and gets an MA in hopes of qualifying for a plum uni position? Will there be enough jobs for all the newly qualified job-seekers? Isn't it just as likely that the competition will get tougher, but pay and conditions will still get worse?
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