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Gender Biased non-Korean Women's show
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Cheonmunka



Joined: 04 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 7:25 pm    Post subject: Gender Biased non-Korean Women's show Reply with quote

Often on Sunday morning for the last few months I see a show with non-Korean (foreign) women on it. They talk about stuff and generally have that Korean girl pretty look (covering the mouth when laughing for example.)
But, why have I not seen a show with non-Korean men on it, what, for a year at least.
What's going on with the gender bias?
Is it not just a show made for Korean men? The Korean-only men on the show seem to lap it up.
Suckers.
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Think around the globe. Name 1 TV show with MORE than 3 guys talking about something other than sports that is popular.

I'm waiting.

Yeah, the world doesn't like a bunch of dudes rambling on like Oprah Winfree. What should Korea be any different?

However, if there WAS a show, I'd be the first person in line to audition for it.
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indiercj



Joined: 30 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Name us one show featuring all-foreign male guests/hosts that is aired on national television in your country.
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Cheonmunka



Joined: 04 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, it's okay to have all female shows? But not all male shows?
Remember that there was a show once with all males. Now is all female shows for months so far.


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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's been many Korean men's fantasies to talk about inane and trivial things with foreign airheads. Finally Korea has globalised to the point where there are a handful of waygook women who know enough Korean to do it and can spare them the trouble of having to fumble along in English. Just think how sophisticated the guys on the programme must look to the ajoshis at the hof who can't even get a waygook guy to come drink with them at their feeding trough.

I'd just love to know what all of those women are really saying about Korea when they chat with their friends back home.
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Cheonmunka



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Just think how sophisticated the guys on the programme must look to the ajoshis at the hof who can't even get a waygook guy to come drink with them at their feeding trough


So you are saying that when there are foreign guys on the show they tend to show up the inadequate Korean masculinity?


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indiercj



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Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheonmunka wrote:
So, it's okay to have all female shows? But not all male shows?


Of course, not. But it means it's rather a 'universal' phenomenon.

I heard the show is planning on making a special episode for the Chusoek holliday season where the female guests will be temporarily replaced by all-foreign-male casts. So, let's wait and see.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheonmunka wrote:
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Just think how sophisticated the guys on the programme must look to the ajoshis at the hof who can't even get a waygook guy to come drink with them at their feeding trough


So you are saying that when there are foreign guys on the show they tend to show up the inadequate Korean masculinity?


Foreign guys on that show would probably look like the biggest losers of all. The B-grade K-celebs probably may feel less comfortable, though, and not the height of sophistication that Planet Korea has to offer.
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doggyji



Joined: 21 Feb 2006
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What show are we talking about here? 미녀들의 수다 again by any chance?
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Cheonmunka



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes it is.
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rocklee



Joined: 04 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guys love sports, what do you expect?

Though I have seen cars, technology, political shows with just a bunch of guys talking, we're living in the 21st century.

I have seen shows in China and Japan before "talking with beauties" even came out, and they have numerous guys on the show speaking Chinese and Japanese. The Chinese show was very interesting, I was really surprised at their abilities in speaking Chinese.
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doggyji



Joined: 21 Feb 2006
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aha, so what exactly is it after all? I've read this type of rants about the show many times on Dave's. Is it just in the context of demanding more "representation" of yourself? It's not like the show's where they should hire employees based on the principles of gender equality or something. Korea has had a few tv shows where foreign males appeared (not just as English teachers on EBS). Lately, I watched 느낌표 on tv and there were 4 foreign guys and Korean ladies travelling around looking for craftsmen.
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Cheonmunka



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Watching the women on TV was like looking into a window in Mia-Ri.
Like contestants with little numbers and nationalities on them. Are they contestants? Is it a "Who can do the best agashi impression?" Like a beauty pageant. Or was it a talk show?
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Vince



Joined: 05 May 2003

PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I watched some of it on YouTube and thought it was interesting to see these girls so far along in their Korean skills. Does anybody know of a listing in English of the girls on the show and what their story is? If it's on a Korean Web site that requires you to join and enter your passport number, I'd appreciate it if one of you who already has access would paste the listing here.

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I'd just love to know what all of those women are really saying about Korea when they chat with their friends back home.

That would indeed be interesting.
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doggyji



Joined: 21 Feb 2006
Location: Toronto - Hamilton - Vineland - St. Catherines

PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vince wrote:
I watched some of it on YouTube and thought it was interesting to see these girls so far along in their Korean skills. Does anybody know of a listing in English of the girls on the show and what their story is? If it's on a Korean Web site that requires you to join and enter your passport number, I'd appreciate it if one of you who already has access would paste the listing here.

http://www.kbs.co.kr/2tv/enter/suda/about/member.html

Can't bother to translate though... Confused Some have Cyworld.

In one episode, they do so weird things that it's hard to endure and in another, it's just pretty funny and interesting. I think you have to check several episodes to have a general idea of what they are doing.
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