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Patriot Act? Why worry?

 
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keane



Joined: 09 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 8:52 pm    Post subject: Patriot Act? Why worry? Reply with quote

They won't take my liberty, I'm just an artists.

Uh... right?

I mean, they wouldn't abuse their powers... would they?

Artist accused of "bioterrorism"

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While most observers assumed the Task Force would realize its initial investigation was a terrible mistake, the feds have instead chosen to press their "case" against Steve Kurtz, Robert Ferrell, and possibly others (see below for more information on the charges). Despite the Public Health Commissioner's conclusion as to the safety of Kurtz's materials, and despite the fact that the FBI's own field and laboratory tests showed they were not harmful to people or the environment � it would actually be impossible to make any sort of weaponized or dangerous germ from them � the U.S. District Attorney continues to waste vast sums of public money on this outrageous and politically motivated persecution.

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What is the violation he is accused of?

In their initial investigation, the Justice Department sought charges under Section 175 of the US Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989, as expanded by the USA PATRIOT Act, Title 18, Part 1, Chapter 10 Sec. 175 - Prohibitions with respect to biological weapons.
Read the Patriot Act Sec. 817: Expansion of the Biological Weapons Statu[t]e
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dogshed



Joined: 28 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks like Steve Jackson Games.
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ddeubel



Joined: 20 Jul 2005

PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is incredible to see how the populace, once they have been subjected, fall suddenly into such profound forgetfulness of their earlier independence that it becomes impossible for them to rouse themselves and recover it; in fact, they proceed to serve so much without prompting, so freely, that one would say, on the face of it, they have not lost their liberty but won their servitude. It may be true that, to begin with, one serves because one has to, because one is constrained to by force; but those who come later serve without regret, and perform of their own free will what their predecessors performed under constraint. So it happens that men, born under the yoke, brought up in servitude, are content to live as they were born...assuming as their natural state the conditions under which they were born.
La Boetie

Reminds me of that quote from Toussaint Louverture (famous of the Haitian slave revolt). "A slave is not one enslaved but even worse, one who is a slave yet believes himself free. "

DD
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keane



Joined: 09 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The "Use of the Armed Forces" in America under a National Emergency
Unrestricted & Arbitrary Powers conferred to the President & Vice President

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by Prof. Michel Chossudovsky

Global Research, June 27, 2007

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In October 2006, Bush signed into law the John Warner National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2007, (also known under the title Department of Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2007) [The John Warner NDAA 07 was adopted on 17 October 2006]

NDAA 07 includes specific provisions which allow the military to take control of normal police and law enforcement functions at the Federal and State levels.

Sec. 1076 of the NDAA 07 overturns the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878, which prevents the military from intervening in the conduct of civilian government activities, including the conduct of Justice and Law Enforcement. Posse Comitatus has been central to the functioning of constitutional government. (It should be noted that other previous pieces of legislation have already invalidated the substance of Posse Comitatus).

What is significant in these specific provisions of NDAA 07 (Sec. 1076) is that they dovetail the provisions of Bush's National Security Presidential and Homeland Directive (NSPD 51, HSPD 20) enacted on May 9, 2007.

NSPD 51 would essentially scrap Constitutional government in the case of a so-called "Catastrophic Emergency". .

If an emergency situation were to be called by the President, NSPD 51 would instate martial law under the authority of the White House and the Department of Homeland Security. It would suspend constitutional government under the provisions of Continuity in Government (COG). It would establish extraordinary powers for the president and vice-president.

The provisions of NSPD 51 are consistent with an existing body of legislation and regulations pertaining to alleged terrorist attacks on the Homeland and the declaration of martial law. Sec. 1076 of NDAA 07 (DDAA 07), however, goes much further in defining the role of the Military in the case of a "Catastrophic Emergency."

Sec 1076 essentially defines the discretionary powers which would be conferred to the president and the vice president if NSPD 51 were to be applied.

Sec. 1076 of the NDAA 07, which was apparently slipped in at the last minute at the request of the White House as an amendment of Sec. 333, pertains to the "Use of the Armed Forces in Major Public Emergencies."

Sec 1076 is extremely explicit; it virtually creates a Pinochet style environment for the mass arrest of political dissidents without trial, the storming of public rallies, etc.

It provides specific details regarding the powers conferred to the President and Vice President in the case of a "Catastrophic Emergency" as envisaged under NSPD 51:

The president "may employ the armed forces ... to restore public order and enforce the laws of the United States"

Unrestricted powers are granted to the White House. The President would have the authority to suspend civilian law enforcement at the federal and state levels and call in the Military, which would be in charge of suppressing "domestic violence" "insurrection"( e.g. public rallies), or "conspiracy", meaning anybody who might express dissent, indignation or opposition to the Bush Administration for having scrapped the Constitution.

The emphasis of Sec. 1076 is in relation to actions directed against "domestic enemies" rather than bona fide "defense" in relation to attacks by foreign forces, which is part of the Military's mandate.

Taken together, NSPD 51 and Sec 1076 of the NDAA 07 define the contours of a "democratic dictatorship" in America under the authority of the White House.

We are not dealing, however, with "Military Rule" or "Military Government" as normally understood, because the authority to govern under the provisions of NSPD 51 is vested in the President and the Vice President. What is at stake is the unrestricted and arbitrary "Use" of the Military by the President /Vice President in the conduct of police and law enforcement functions, while bypassing the US Congress and the Judiciary.
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stevemcgarrett



Joined: 24 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funny you should mention it. I myself which I could have landed a small role in The Patriot with Mel Gibson.

It would have enabled me to act like a patriot, shoot the redcoats at will, and get paid a good sum for it.
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