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changwonteacher



Joined: 05 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 7:29 pm    Post subject: CertTEYL Reply with quote

Anybody done a Certificate in Teaching English to Young Learners? I've seen some online courses on the net, but don't know if they are worth the money. I have a CELTA, but no young learner training. Without a practical component, I don' t see how much value it can be: I could just read some books (can anyone recommend any good books?) The ad for the online course says it will help you to get a better job, but with the amount of jobs teaching children available, I reckon getting a job teaching kids is pretty easy anyway. Any thoughts?
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tob55



Joined: 29 Apr 2007

PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 7:46 pm    Post subject: Options coming... Reply with quote

There are some options which will soon be avaiable for people wanting 100% online study in Korea...I sent you a PM regarding theis information...
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Dome Vans
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have a CELTA, but no young learner training. Without a practical component, I don' t see how much value it can be: I could just read some books


Same here. I have a CELTA and had one lesson on the course teaching us about teaching kids, the rest was teaching Hungarian adults. BUt no practical lessons for kids. I've found that you can adapt some of the theories learned during the course and apply to kids. What I think is missing is good language games for kids, I know there are loads out there but most are for children who have a fairly good grasp of english, and would be too hard for my kids.

From a personal POV I find it strange that people can do the online course and that counts as a TEFL qual. Anything without actual TP shouldn't be considered.

It's like learning about killing and being a soldier online, but actual experience is more useful if a war ever happened. Krap analogy, i know.

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I reckon getting a job teaching kids is pretty easy anyway


Yep. As long as you like kids and have a calm manner that is more important.
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Satin



Joined: 26 Oct 2006
Location: Texas

PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dome Vans wrote:

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From a personal POV I find it strange that people can do the online course and that counts as a TEFL qual. Anything without actual TP shouldn't be considered.


I think you brought up a sore point with the above comment. I have an Education degree, teacher certified in four areas, a Master's and years of experience.

So why the heck would I really want a "refresher" course of 20 hours TP?

OP: It's up to you whether you take a course for young learners. Read the thread on TEFL online; it offers many thoughts. There are many websites that offer materials for young learners. Many free ones. Do a search on this site and you'll find lots of information.

I wouldn't say teaching young learners is always easy. It does take some work on your behalf to make it fun and interesting. If you like young people and can connect, it will make your position more enjoyable.

Go for the age level you are interested and feel comfortable with. You'll be happier.
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tob55



Joined: 29 Apr 2007

PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 10:25 pm    Post subject: Thanks Satin... Reply with quote

The comments of Satin are more in line with the current thinking regarding online training...The thoughts regarding getting a certificate if it is not actually going to prove to be useful for the OP are also excellent...I would say there are a number of reasons to enhance your professional qualifications, but it is not always necessary to spend money on a program that will give you little in terms of useful results...Contrary to what some have posted on this forum, there are very legitimate and valuable programs that are offered online and are very high quality in terms of delivery and content...finding a quality program takes time and research so people don't get ripped off...
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Bear256



Joined: 28 Dec 2006
Location: Anacortes, Washington USA

PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe it's just me but I find it strange that TEFL in general is not aimed at teaching young learners. I have looked at jobs in South America, Asia, Eastern Europe and Africa and they have been overwhelmingly jobs teaching students instead of adults.

Why isn't TEFL training aimed at the biggest market and greatest need?
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tob55



Joined: 29 Apr 2007

PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 2:35 pm    Post subject: Unfortunately... Reply with quote

The whole of the TEFL/TESOL/TESL/CELTA (et.al.) training industry was created because there was a need for it Internationally, and it is a big money maker...The creation and inclusion of TEYL (Teaching English to Young Learners), BE (Business English) and other courses was created for the purpose of making more money when people have completed their initial training...It is how getting repeat customers in business works...Here is a poor example, but an example nonetheless...If I own a lawn chair company and sell you a high quality lawn chair, it is in my interest to immediately work on a new and improved model of the lawn chair so you will come back and buy it if you liked the first one...

In a market that is often driven by cost, people see paying big bucks to get an add-on certificate to teach young learners a benefit...So, they will spend the money to receive that training regardless of cost...Programs offering quality instruction have been few and faw between, because the international market has no real system of checks and balances...The companies boasting accreditation, are often the people who set up the agency who accredits them...Others are working with major universities and actually operate their programs through the auspices of those universities...This creates a problem, because there is usually some financial arrangement with a university which in the end adds to the cost of the training...

So, there are a number of new companies now beginning to surface that offer students high quality training, onsite and online for much less money...How are they able to do this? Simply because they have organized and registered with the government of the country where they are located...
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