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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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 Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:46 pm Post subject: Just when you thought Bush couldn't get any stupider |
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http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article2891176.ece
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There have been surreal moments aplenty in the presidency of George W Bush. Few, however, can match his invocation of Graham Greene in defence of America's policy in Iraq. Where Bush is the most faith-driven of leaders, so unafflicted by self-doubt, Greene is the mouthpiece par excellence of seedy ambiguity, tattered faith and human frailty.
The subject was Vietnam, the war that Mr Bush famously chose not to fight. In the intervening 30-plus years, however, he has plainly undergone something of a conversion. Vietnam was a noble undertaking, was his basic message this week to a convention of US veterans. If anything, the mistake of America was not to stay there longer, a mistake he has no intention of repeating in Iraq.
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yawarakaijin
Joined: 08 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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I have to say something here.....
I've never thought Bush couldn't get any stupider.  |
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dogshed
Joined: 28 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 1:24 am Post subject: |
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I'm sure someone told Bush to say it, and it's pretty smart. As more
people compare the Iraq war to the Viet Nam war then it makes sense
to acknowledge that and then give it a twist. Die hard anti-war people
won't go for it, but many fence-sitters will.
Did Bush screw up the war? I say yes he did.
Is the answer to just pull out? I'm not sure about that, but so far the only argument I've heard for pulling out is that it was a bad decision to start the war. |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 7:00 am Post subject: |
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| dogshed wrote: |
I'm sure someone told Bush to say it, and it's pretty smart. As more
people compare the Iraq war to the Viet Nam war then it makes sense
to acknowledge that and then give it a twist. Die hard anti-war people
won't go for it, but many fence-sitters will.
Did Bush screw up the war? I say yes he did.
Is the answer to just pull out? I'm not sure about that, but so far the only argument I've heard for pulling out is that it was a bad decision to start the war. |
I agree that the troops should stay in Iraq until the government has enough troops to deal with an insurgency which is not the case. Frankly, I wish there were a way to add 50,000 soldiers rather than withdraw.
However, considering there are not enough American soldiers in the world, the troops are going to have to be withdrawn, because the military is so overtaxed. The Iraqi Government really needs to move. The military has been there for 4 years already. The problem is the war was launched when troops were present in Afghanistan and America has a limited amount of troops. This war has emboldened Russia and fanatics to some extent. Bush put America in this bad situation just like LBJ did. |
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sundubuman
Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: seoul
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| Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 8:02 am Post subject: |
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the real question is....
what would the Canadians do? |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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| sundubuman wrote: |
the real question is....
what would the Canadians do? |
If the war is just, fight. If it's a fundamentalist religious crusade led by a man who thinks god told him to attack, stay out. |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Adventurer wrote: |
| Frankly, I wish there were a way to add 50,000 soldiers rather than withdraw. |
Enlist all of the 18-35 year old GOPers? |
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The Perfect Cup of Coffee
Joined: 17 Jun 2007
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keane
Joined: 09 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 10:54 am Post subject: |
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| yawarakaijin wrote: |
I have to say something here...
I've never thought Bush couldn't get any stupider. |
It would be funnier if it weren't so true. |
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twg
Joined: 02 Nov 2006
Location: Getting some fresh air...
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| Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 11:00 am Post subject: |
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Typical neo-con obfuscating.
I believe the technique is called "Truthiness" by those in the know. |
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