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regicide



Joined: 01 Sep 2006
Location: United States

PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:36 pm    Post subject: Attempted Shakedown Reply with quote

Several months back I went to the ATM near a supermarket that I frequent at about 10:10PM and they had already closed at ten. Some of the guys I know at the market were smoking outside and I told them of my situation. I assumed he was one of the owners or at the very least a manager. He knew me and where I worked and gave me some money for the night which I paid back the next afternoon.

I got a call today and he was asking not only for the original amount, but double that. ( he gave me shim man won, he was asking for two hundred thousand today)

I had a Korean try to call him and he wouldn't answer. Then I went to that supermarket ( where he doesn't work anymore) . They confirmed that I paid back the money and we called the guy. Of course he denied his attempt to get money from me and just now he called me to apologize.

He said mi'an hey o , about 10 times. I said it's alright.

What drove this guy to do this?


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ceesgetdegrees



Joined: 12 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Attempted Shakedown Reply with quote

regicide wrote:
Several months back I went to the ATM near a supermarket that I frequent at about 10:10PM and they had already closed at ten. Some of the guys I know at the market were smoking outside and I told them of my situation. He knew me and where I worked and gave me some money for the night which I paid back the next afternoon.

I got a call today and he was asking not only for the original amount, but double that. ( he gave me shim man won, he was asking for two hundred thousand today)

I had a Korean try to call him and he wouldn't answer. Then I went to that supermarket ( where he doesn't work anymore) . They confirmed that I paid back the money and we called the guy. Of course he denied his attempt to get money from me and just now he called me to apologize.

He said mi'an hey o , about 10 times. I said it's alright.

What drove this guy to do this?



How about the fact that he probably earns about a million won a month.
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mole



Joined: 06 Feb 2003
Location: Act III

PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Desperation? Soju? Peer pressure from friends ragging on him for helping a weygook. At least you guys are squared up now.
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mrsquirrel



Joined: 13 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you pay any interest on your loan?
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regicide



Joined: 01 Sep 2006
Location: United States

PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrsquirrel wrote:
Did you pay any interest on your loan?


What do you figure that would be? When I borrowed 100,000 for 18 hours.

How about 12 months of complete loyalty to this small market, when two large supermarkets where prices are a lot lower are a thirty minute walk away.

And another , cleaner market is 5 minutes away and the prices are slightly lower.

And a friendlier, cuter night staff at the nearby convienience store is only 3 minutes away.

Was buying a two or three million won of merchandise at his store enough?
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mrsquirrel



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you give him a token gift as a thankyou like an apple or not?
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regicide



Joined: 01 Sep 2006
Location: United States

PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrsquirrel wrote:
Did you give him a token gift as a thankyou like an apple or not?


He was not there when I returned the money and I did not see him for some time after.

But , I stipulate that I was wrong for not doing as you suggested, and I should have followed up with a small gift and not considered customer loyalty as his repayment.

Now , did that justify his attempted extortion ? A crime.


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mrsquirrel



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not really no.
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thebomb



Joined: 13 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You said that he didn't work at the supermarket anymore, maybe he lost his job and was desperate and was hoping that olde whitey would cough over the money cos according to the word on the street English teachers earn a fortune.
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Jake_Kim



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 11:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Attempted Shakedown Reply with quote

regicide wrote:
He knew me and where I worked and gave me some money for the night which I paid back the next afternoon.


So, whose money was it? That guy's own pocket money, or from the shop's cash register?


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regicide



Joined: 01 Sep 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 12:43 am    Post subject: Re: Attempted Shakedown Reply with quote

Jake_Kim wrote:
regicide wrote:
He knew me and where I worked and gave me some money for the night which I paid back the next afternoon.


So, who's money was it? That guy's own pocket money, or from the shop's cash register?


He walked away and came back with the money. so I am not sure. He may have been renting the meat section now that I think of it. Stores do that in Korea, rent a part of the store out. I did return the money at the meat section and as I said, he wasnt there at the time I returned the money. I know it didnt come from the main cash register in the front of the store, so it was either out of his own pocket , or from the meat section, which he may have had control of.
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Jake_Kim



Joined: 27 Aug 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 2:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It couldn't have been a bad joke or a miscalculation, apparently. Anything lost in translation?
Even if he had a criminal intent, he couldn't have been dumb enough to believe that he could easily fool or coerce a foreigner into doubling the amount in such a simple transaction. (or perhaps he was that dumb) I just don't see the context which we see in most other scams. (i.e. misinformation, distortion of law, regulation, terms of agreement, etc.)
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Doutdes



Joined: 14 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 2:13 am    Post subject: Re: Attempted Shakedown Reply with quote

regicide wrote:
He walked away and came back with the money. so I am not sure. He may have been renting the meat section now that I think of it. Stores do that in Korea, rent a part of the store out. I did return the money at the meat section and as I said, he wasnt there at the time I returned the money. I know it didnt come from the main cash register in the front of the store, so it was either out of his own pocket , or from the meat section, which he may have had control of.


That right there would be your mistake. He might be trying to scam him, but he also may not have gotten the money. Unless you're sure that the person you gave the money to gave him the money, you should give him the 100,000 won.
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Matman



Joined: 02 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 2:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Borrowing money from people you meet on the street is stupid and risky behaviour. I wouldn't even do it in my home country let alone the other side of the world. What were you thinking of?
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Ilsanman



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's possible the person you gave the money to pocketed it, and din't give it to the man you originally got it from. Then it was someone else who tried to shake you down.

Is that possible?
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