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SPINOZA
Joined: 10 Jun 2005 Location: $eoul
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 2:50 pm Post subject: This just in: Overeating causes obesity |
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What causes obesity? Overeating. I was talking to Sydney Brenner, who won the Nobel Prize in 2002, and he said, 'Steve, we discovered the gene for obesity years ago: it's the one that makes you open your mouth'. |
article: http://observer.guardian.co.uk/foodmonthly/story/0,,2149132,00.html |
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Pligganease

Joined: 14 Sep 2004 Location: The deep south...
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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ddeubel

Joined: 20 Jul 2005
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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It does sound stupid, as a one liner.......but so many people don't get that short and profound FACT of life. They prefer to think that obesity is not just linked to soooo many other variables (which it is but only linked, they don't mean a thing if you are overeating) but caused by them (heredity, genetics, activity level, weather, quality of diet).
Big difference between these proximal factors and the real cause - OVEReating.
What is hanging on your body in terms of fat, is because of too much caloric intake. Trust me, if you eat less, you'll have less fat. Simple.
As an athlete, it is also very well known that exercise is not a very effective factor for weight / fat loss, especially if one is overeating. Calories in = calories out .....
But I love that quote, if only it were true. Usually the avid talkers are the squirrel types. thin as rakes.
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Pligganease

Joined: 14 Sep 2004 Location: The deep south...
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Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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Peaople need to be able to blame something. If someone uses too much heroin, they call it a disease. If someone eats too much, that's a disease, too. Both are preventable and curable by stopping the overuse of both, but since society has deemed that willpower and personal responsibility don't exist.
Why are you fat? McDonald's marketing!
Why are you fat? I have a genetic problem!
Why are you fat? I have a food addiction!
It's never the fat person's fault for eating too much. I know that it's not possible, even with the "fat gene," to weigh 400 pounds if you don't stuff your face with crap. |
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PeteJB
Joined: 06 Jul 2007
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Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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Reading the Guardian is so bad, it's likely to give me cancer. |
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browneyedgirl

Joined: 17 Jul 2007
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Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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Now they can do a study to see if large amounts of alcohol consumption will make people drunk. |
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crazylemongirl

Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Location: almost there...
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Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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I have been a reformed obese person for about 18 months or so now. I really enjoy exercising and am now hooked on it.
However I do have to make an effort everyday to not eat junk food, I'll be the first to admit that I love hamburgers, KFC, pizza, cakes, brownies and pie. I'd eat them all the time if I could get away with it. However most days I'm good and eat lots of fruit and veggies. Some days I'll slip. But every day I battle with what I want to eat versus what I should eat.
The problem isn't weight loss, just about everyone can do that if they really want. Staying thin and saying no to that burger every day for the rest of your life. That's tough. |
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VanIslander

Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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the reason for speculation about the other factors is... some people can eat and eat and never get fat
we all know someone like that
that's where genetics, age, timing, metabolic history and other factors often come into account |
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Bondgirl

Joined: 26 May 2007 Location: in my Aston Martin
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Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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I once worked as a Jenny Craig consultant and sales person for 18 months - 50% of clients were amazing, made the connection and got eating properly and changed their lives for good and got healthy. The other 50% were morons looking for excuses. They drove me crazy coming up with dumb theories. They'd say ' you know, i have already done Weight Watchers and it doesn't work. As soon as I finished I put all the wieght back on". What? Healthy controlled eating and a supportive environment don't work? What doesn't work is your delusion that you can continue to eat unnaturally large amounts of food and rubbish and expect to have good health and look good.
Argh.
Anyway, I would always rub my little hands together when these suckers came along because they would buy anything off any clown who made them a few promises. I guess that is why they fall for the fast food ads and believe that it's normal to eat a lot of crappy food. |
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Privateer
Joined: 31 Aug 2005 Location: Easy Street.
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Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 3:52 am Post subject: |
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My feeling is that we've got genetic scars. We don't need a craving for fat: we shouldn't be eating crisps any more but we do. Why do we love them? I think it's deeply genetic. Right back in time, this love of salt, sweet things, high carbohydrate and high fat would have provided instant energy on the savannah. It might have been the difference between survival or not. |
One of the interesting things about living in Korea is getting to directly experience how a lot of the things we assume as westerners are universal truths about humanity are no such thing.
A couple of months in Korea encountering people who do not like sweet things, or salty things, or fatty food might make the author of the above re-think.
Of course, you can argue a case that there is a primaeval human need to gorge on salt, fat, and sugar but it's just expressed in different ways: with Brits it may be a craving for crisps, with Koreans the salt comes from kimchi, the fat from dwigim or galbi, and the sugar ... well there really is very little sugar in the traditional Korean diet.
With globalisation other culture's traditions such as Korea's may vanish and the insight they provide into truly universal human truths along with them. I hope this will not happen, not because I believe all traditions ought to be preserved, but because lack of cross-cultural currents can lead to stagnation. |
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duns0014
Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Location: Ilsan
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