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Religious school funding may define Ont. election
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BJWD wrote:
I went to Catholic school from K-5, 7-9. Good schools. Much better than the public schools in many ways, but we are all from fairly well-off families. There were no "disadvantaged" kids in my school. Not a one, until some El Salvadorians in J-high.

We had 30 min of religion a day, prayed before the day started, before lunch and after lunch. We went to church on Fridays too. And oodles of meetings in the gym where we learned about nonsense.

But I got an excellent education otherwise. When i rejoined the public schools in grade 10 I was heaps ahead of my new peers. Unfortunately, I can still remember some bible passages from heart. What a waste of hard drive space.


Then you are a far better human than me. I'm soft shoeing my opinion because I really did get a good education in catholic school and despite my own atheism and ire about government spending money on religion, I wouldn't mind seeing the catholic system continue, if anything for merely nebulous reasons of tradition.

I much more admire your ability to lay these issues aside and take a harder stand I'm unwilling to.

And this is further evidence catholic education tends to create skeptics.

In my school, we had a lot of Chinese and Koreans. One of the Korean students was going home for the summer and bought it when the Russians shot down his plane. He was on that plane.


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thepeel



Joined: 08 Aug 2004

PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I think that reference suggests that I try to throw off the shackles of my religious upbringing. Kinda, sorta, not really.

While I went to Catholic school, my parents sent me for two reasons 1) my mom is Catholic and 2) it is a MUCH better education. My dad, quietly and throughly undermined any religious ideas in me with money-quotes like "you know, son, it is all BullShi.t" (on the way to see Wayne Gretzky and the Edmonton Oilers, after I asked him why Jesus would let people suffer). I've not believed in that crap all my young adult/adult life. But my disbelief is now more than a personal issue. Too many religious people are trying to push their religious crap on the rest of us. Enough.

All that aside, it was an excellent education. Crazy as it is, I'd send my kid to the schools I went to over the esl factories that are now public schools in Canadian cities. And if Canada was two groups i. Catholics of very liberal leaning and ii. Canadians of liberal leanings then I wouldn't have much problem with the schools getting public funds. I'd still oppose it. But when Canada has crazy protestants, Catholics, muslims, muslims and muslims it all gets more complicated. If the choice is, as it is, an either/or of fund one = fund all OR fund none, then I choose none. And all you religious people should choose none too. Keep it personal. Keep it to yourself.
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BJWD wrote:
"you know, son, it is all BullShi.t" (on the way to see Wayne Gretzky and the Edmonton Oilers, after I asked him why Jesus would let people suffer). I've not believed in that crap all my young adult/adult life. But my disbelief is now more than a personal issue. Too many religious people are trying to push their religious crap on the rest of us. Enough.


Xenu bless your dad Smile
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thepeel



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

L. Ron is actually a good example of how fake this all is, eh? He said that if you want to get rich, start a religion. He did, and he did, and people still join after his death.
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