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sportsguy35
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nzfooty
Joined: 28 Jul 2007
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Gwangju 2-1 Daegu (9,633)
Busan 1-2 Pohang (4,765)
Sunday:
Jeju - Chunnam
Daejeon - Incheon
Jeonbuk - Gyeongnam
Suwon - Seoul
Seongnam - Ulsan
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Pos Team P W D L F A GD Pts
1 Seongnam 16 11 4 1 28 8 20 37
2 Suwon 16 9 4 3 26 17 9 31
3 Jeonbuk 16 8 3 5 25 18 7 27
4 Ulsan 16 7 6 3 20 15 5 27
5 Pohang 17 6 5 6 16 19 -3 23
6 Gyeongnam 16 6 4 6 25 20 5 22
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7 Chunnam 16 5 7 4 17 16 1 22
8 FC Seoul 16 4 10 2 10 9 1 22
9 Incheon 16 5 5 6 18 20 -2 20
10 Daejeon 16 4 7 5 18 17 1 19
11 Daegu 17 4 4 9 22 29 -7 16
12 Jeju 16 4 3 9 12 22 -10 15
13 Busan 17 3 5 9 16 24 -8 14
14 Gwangju 17 2 5 10 9 28 -19 11
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sportsguy35
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| Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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| For all of ya'll in the Suwon area on Sunday at 7 pm, come out to the Suwon world cup stadium. Its gonna be crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is by far the biggest derby in the K-League and should be a near sell out. If you go, get there 2 hours early and get in line for tickets asap 'cause the line could get pretty long. See you guys out there... |
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mervsdamun
Joined: 06 Jun 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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Go Suwon...
FC Seoul have to be the ugliest team in the world. |
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just because
Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964
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| Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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| C'mon gyeongnam!!!! |
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rednomad
Joined: 13 Mar 2007
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 1:23 am Post subject: |
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| where can i find an english schedule for when and where matches will be played? |
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mervsdamun
Joined: 06 Jun 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 1:43 am Post subject: |
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There is a schedule for ya in English but it does not list the venues or times:
http://www.rokfootball.com/klfaugust.html
Usually the teams stick to their designated home grounds but because of the current u17 World Cup some will be playing at other venues near their base.
However, normally the teams stick to their usual home ground 95% of the time. For the list of the clubs, their usual home venues and how to get to them (in English) check out:
http://www.rokfootball.com/kleague.html
The most accurate schedule that I know of is on the official K-League page but it is in Korean.
http://new.kleaguei.com/
Good place to ask questions is here:
http://forum.rokfootball.com |
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nzfooty
Joined: 28 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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Gwangju 2-1 Daegu (9,633)
Busan 1-2 Pohang (4,765)
Jeju 2-1 Chunnam (1,506)
Daejeon 0-1 Incheon (18,101)
Jeonbuk 2-3 Gyeongnam (15,711)
Suwon 2-1 Seoul (41,819)
Seongnam 1-1 Ulsan (8,988)
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1. Seongnam 38 11-5-1 20
2. Suwon 34 10-4-3 10
3. Ulsan 28 7-7-3 5
4. Jeonbuk 27 8-3-6 6
5. Gyeongnam 25 7-4-6 6
6. Incheon 23 6-5-6 -1
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7. Pohang 23 6-5-6 -3
8. Chunnam 22 5-7-5 0
9. FC Seoul 22 4-10-3 0
10.Daejeon 19 4-7-6 0
11.Jeju 18 5-3-9 -9
12.Daegu 16 4-4-9 -7
13.Busan 14 3-5-9 -8
14.Gwangju 11 2-5-10 -19
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Aug 25:
전남 v 광주 @순천팔마 16:30:00
인천 v 제주 @문학 월드컵 19:00:00
대구 v 수원 @대구 월드컵 19:00:00
포항 v 성남 @포항 스틸야드 19:00:00
울산 v 서울 @문수 월드컵 19:30:00
경남 v 부산 @마산 19:00:00
Aug 26:
대전 v 전북 @대전 월드컵 19:00:00 |
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sportsguy35
Joined: 27 Apr 2005
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| Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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Great game in Suwon. Must have been 200-300 foreigners there.
Congrats to Gyeongnam for getting back to business. Hope to see those guys in the playoffs.
Here is the Suwon wrap-up
http://fcbluewings.com/eng/news/news_view.asp?seq=61 |
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sportsguy35
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| Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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경남 : 부산 08/25 19:00
포항 : 성남 08/25 19:00
인천 : 제주 08/25 19:00
전남 : 광주 08/25 16:30
대구 : 수원 08/25 19:00
울산 : 서울 08/25 19:30
대전 : 전북 08/26 19:00
Gyeongnam-Busan 7pm
Pohang-Seongnam 7pm
Incheon-Jeju 7pm
Jeonnam-Gwangju 4:30 pm
Daegu-Suwon 7pm
Ulsan-FC Satan 7:30pm
Daejon-Jeonbuk 7pm (Sunday) |
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mervsdamun
Joined: 06 Jun 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Great, thanks for that. Should just add that the home venues for some teams have been changed because of the u17 World Cup. Chunnam will play their match in Suncheon while the Gyeongnam � Busan match will take place in Masan. |
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plato's republic
Joined: 07 Dec 2004
Location: Ancient Greece
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| Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 5:02 am Post subject: |
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| Can someone enlighten me as to what's up with all the anti-FC Seoul bias? Are they the richest club in Korea? The most successful? I've seen them play a couple of times and they bored me to tears on both occasions and it also seems like they haven't won anything for donkey's years so why all the hate..? |
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Holyjoe
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: Away for a cuppa
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| Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 6:10 am Post subject: |
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| Can someone enlighten me as to what's up with all the anti-FC Seoul bias? Are they the richest club in Korea? The most successful? I've seen them play a couple of times and they bored me to tears on both occasions and it also seems like they haven't won anything for donkey's years so why all the hate..? |
Hmm, essentially this... for the first 6 or 7 seasons seasons of the K-League none of the teams really had a regular home base, and matches would be toured around the country so that everyone could share in the love. Around the beginning of the 1990s though the teams eventually started to settle in specific cities (for example POSCO building their Steelyard stadium in Pohang), and three teams - Ilhwa Chunma, Yukong Elephants and LG Cheetahs - ended up playing out of Dongdaemun Stadium.
By 1995, the inclusion of Chonbuk Dinos and Chunnam Dragons in the league, POSCO's namechange to Pohang Steelers, and Samsung's determination to create their team specifically to play in Suwon led to the K-League thinking it would be rather good indeed if everyone else followed suit, so they decided that the Dongdaemun-based teams had too much of an unfair advantage in terms of attracting fans/money by being in Seoul and made them move out of the capital. Then all the other teams added the name of their home city to their club name and everything was hunky dory.
At the start of 1996 Ilhwa Chunma moved to Cheonan, Yukong Elephants moved to Bucheon (though not immediately as they played for a bit in Mok-dong) and LG Cheetahs moved to Anyang. The K-League made a pretty big deal out of the whole local identity issue and things went rather well - citizens of Anyang got right behind the team and they became one of the best-supported teams, and the local rivalry between folk from Anyang and Suwon helped the football derby become the game on the Korean calendar.
Of course it was in 1996 that FIFA awarded their fun little football festival to Japan and Korea, and work began on the ten venues here. Most of them were built with the proviso that teams in the cities would move into the World Cup stadiums once they were complete, and the cities without teams would actively seek to create clubs (which led to the creation of Daegu FC and Incheon United, plus the military side Sangmu rejoining the league to play in Gwangju). Eventually just two stadiums, Seoul and Seogwipo, were left empty.
The K-League tried for a while to persuade some major corporations not already involved in running clubs (Lotte, KTF amongst others) to start one in Seoul, but the KFA were seeking ridiculously huge amounts of money to cover the construction costs of the WC venue. There were fan groups trying to get a team off the ground but they were never able to get anywhere near the amount of money or sponsorship needed to run a K-League team. Eventually the K-League decided to allow existing league sides to apply to move to the Seoul World Cup stadium and LG (then owners of Anyang) and I'Park (Busan) applied, with LG fronting up enough cash to go through with the move at the end of 2003, so Anyang LG Cheetahs became FC Seoul for 2004.
Whilst Anyang LG Cheetahs were not a 'community' club in the sense that others in a similar situation (Wimbledon, for example) were because of their foundation as a corporate sports entity, the move to localise the league and tie the clubs in with their local communities led to them establishing strong links with the city, and folk were rightly pissed that they were allowed to bugger off in search of bigger pots of gold elsewhere. A similar situation arose at the end of 2005 when SK moved their team from Bucheon down to Jeju to take up residence at the Seogwipo World Cup stadium. One slight difference between the two situations was that Bucheon were rather quickly sliding into oblivion (no money, tiny attendances, little interest) whereas Anyang were still prospering in their city at the time they moved. It should also be noted that Ilhwa Chunma moved on from Cheonan to Seongnam, but their links to the Unificationist church have dogged them everywhere they have been so it's not quite as controversial. A number of National League (second division) sides have also played musical stadiums but local identities haven't really been a strong factor in that league really.
The FC Seoul situation is also the reason that the K3 League (third division) side Seoul United have garnered quite a lot of support and financial backing since their creation earlier this year. They've been marketing themselves as the 'true' Seoul club, and they were founded by the folks who were trying to set up a K-League club in Seoul previously - their ultimate aim is to get Seoul United up there with the big boys of Korean football. Former Bucheon supporters are pretty close to putting together a club to compete at K3 level from next season, but rather ironically Anyang fans haven't yet been able to get anything of a serious nature going.
So erm.. that's about it really. And you're right, FC Seoul are bloody painful to watch. The National League and K3 are where all the entertainment happens  |
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nzfooty
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| Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:53 am Post subject: |
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| HJ, you should put a FAQ together on ROKfootball and include this Q n A. I think this question comes up quite often and I don�t think your answer can be beaten in terms of both clarity and depth. |
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nzfooty
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| Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 5:01 am Post subject: |
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Chunnam 2-0 Gwangju (10,200)
Incheon 1-1 Jeju (10,738)
Daegu 1-2 Suwon (44,215)
Pohang 2-1 Seongnam (11,097)
Ulsan 0-0 FC Seoul (13,574)
Gyeongnam 2-0 Busan (4,219)
Daejeon 2-0 Jeonbuk (19,212)
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Pos Team P W D L F A GD Pts
1 Seongnam 18 11 5 2 30 11 19 38
2 Suwon 18 11 4 3 30 19 11 37
3 Ulsan 18 7 8 3 21 16 5 29
4 Gyeongnam 18 8 4 6 30 22 8 28
5 Jeonbuk 18 8 3 7 27 23 4 27
6 Pohang 18 7 5 6 18 20 -2 26
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7 Chunnam 18 6 7 5 20 18 2 25
8 Incheon 18 6 6 6 20 21 -1 24
9 FC Seoul 18 4 11 3 11 11 0 23
10 Daejeon 18 5 7 6 20 18 2 22
11 Jeju 18 5 4 9 15 24 -9 19
12 Daegu 18 4 4 10 23 31 -8 16
13 Busan 18 3 5 10 16 26 -10 14
14 Gwangju 18 2 5 11 9 30 -21 11
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Round 20
[Aug 29]
Gwangju - Jeju
Suwon - Chunnam
Seongnam - Gyeongnam
Jeonbuk - Incheon
Busan - Daejeon
Ulsan - Daegu
Seoul - Pohang
For more discussion on k-league and other K-footy news check out:
http://forum.rokfootball.com/
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