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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

4 months left wrote:
Anybody know how much for Canadians in China?


35k won if you go to the embassy and do it yourself.

If an agent does it you can expect to pay an extra 10k-15k for their trouble.

http://www.gov.cn/misc/content_162628.htm

Single entry visas
35k won for 4 day service
59k won for 2 day service
70k won for same day service
http://busan.china-consulate.org/eng/xw/t176588.htm

multi-entry visas are available for a slightly higher fee:
53k won for 4 day service
77k won for 2 day service
88k won for same day service

For US citizens the rates are:
64k, 88k, 99k for single entry
82k,106k, 117k for multi entry.

If someone was charged $130 the travel agent was certainly overcharging for their services.
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tired of LA



Joined: 06 Nov 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 3:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:

For US citizens the rates are:
64k, 88k, 99k for single entry
82k,106k, 117k for multi entry.


I don't think that website has been updated with the new fees for Americans. It now costs $100 no matter the type of visa you apply for, so you might as well get the multiple re-entry visa.
http://www.china-embassy.org/eng/hzqz/zgqz/t84246.htm
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bucheon bum



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

desultude wrote:
bucheon bum wrote:
us americans always get screwed over. I paid 100 bucks for Bangladesh visa. Brits had to pay the 2nd most, and it was like 50 USD for them. Syria? also $100, which was a lot more than any other nationality. India has a special fee for us americans too. Good times.

Sounds like China has stepped it up a notch though, impressive.


Well, I do think the screwing over Americans get is reciprocity. I understand that if you go to Brazil these days, Americans have to get mug shot and finger printed, because we require that of Brazilians. Visas and work permits for the U.S. are very restrictive and very expensive.

It is a drag that the average traveler has to pay for the excesses of the U.S. government and State Department, but there is a certain fairness to it,


yeah, but for some countries it is really stupid. Just kills tourism. That's what happened to Turkey a couple years ago. It jacked up the visa fee for Americans, and the # of American visitors dropped significantly. Now the visa cost is in line with other nationalities.

China, on the other hand, can afford to do it.
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Yaya



Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think countries that charge a fee for an entry visa are screwing themselves over. I'm more inclined to visit a place that has a visa-free policy than somewhere that charges me the privilege of spending dough in that country.

In my opinion, China, Vietnam and other countries who charge for visas lose millions of dollars in tourist revenue because of their policy for charging for visas.
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Masta_Don



Joined: 17 Aug 2006
Location: Hyehwa-dong, Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did it go up recently or something? Last time I checked, about 4 months ago, it was $80 thru Xanadu Travel and $70 if you went to the embassy yourself.
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tired of LA



Joined: 06 Nov 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Masta_Don wrote:
Did it go up recently or something? Last time I checked, about 4 months ago, it was $80 thru Xanadu Travel and $70 if you went to the embassy yourself.


Yeah, China just raised the price for a visa in August and only for Americans.
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Tony_Balony



Joined: 12 Apr 2007

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
China put U.S. immigration laws to the test

31 July 2006

In a spat over U.S. asylum policy, China is refusing to take back 40,000 deportable immigrants, insisting that asylum-seekers such as Falun Gong members and other political opponents of Beijing be returned as well. That has put the U.S. in a sticky position.

If illegal immigrants "are not accepted back, then, for all intents and purposes, they are free to remain in this country because we have no place to remove them to," Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff recently told an audience at the American Enterprise Institute, a conservative Washington think tank.

Key to the Department of Homeland Security's recent get-tough plan on immigration enforcement, which began last November, is the end of what it calls "catch and release" -- apprehending illegal immigrants and then releasing them into the U.S. population while negotiating their return home with their government. Department officials are awaiting completion of thousands of new prison beds next year -- bringing the total to 30,000 -- so that many of those people can be jailed while awaiting deportation, which they hope will also discourage others from immigrating to the U.S.

But China's refusal to accept returnees by not issuing travel documents undercuts U.S. attempts to discourage illegal entrants. "If the removal process has any deterrent effect, you have to show that people are being removed," says Paul Virtue, former general counsel to the immigration service.

Worse, though, it shows what few options the U.S. has in enforcing its deportation policy when other countries won't cooperate. "If China wants to dig in its heels, we would have real limitations," says Doris Meissner, who was immigration commissioner in the Clinton administration.

Of the estimated 12 million illegal immigrants in the U.S., about 550,000 have received final removal orders from an immigration judge but remain at large, says Homeland Security. While Chinese account for only a small share of those ordered deported, they are "the largest population that we've had difficulty in returning," Mr. Chertoff told the AEI audience.

In the fiscal year that ended in September, Homeland Security says it was able to deport just 522 Chinese whose appeals had been exhausted. Even that was a drop from about 600 in each of the two previous years.

International convention holds that countries take back their nationals upon request. China's refusal is "breaking international norms and codes of conduct," Ms. Meissner says. But a handful of countries are routinely slow -- or like Cuba, simply refuse -- to issue the travel documents that allow the U.S. to return their citizens, says Susan Martin, director of Georgetown University's Institute for the Study of International Migration.

Nigeria, among others, has disputed attempts to return its nationals who have been convicted of crimes in the U.S., arguing that they turned to criminality while they were in the U.S. and shouldn't be Nigeria's responsibility. El Salvador has worried about taking back gang members for fear they will aggravate street crime. Somalia doesn't have a central government that can negotiate its citizens' return.

Other countries see no benefit in taking back immigrants who will add to unemployment, housing or political problems. China, meanwhile, has used the deportation issue to pressure the U.S. on its policy of providing political asylum. The U.S. granted political asylum to about 5,000 Chinese in 2001 and again in 2002, although the number has since fallen by half.

Mr. Chertoff argues that China's reluctance to take back deportable immigrants only encourages asylum seekers. People arrive illegally, are caught, then hear about asylum laws while they await deportation and "the wheels are turning in their mind," he said.

But China argues just the opposite: It says the prospect of political asylum attracts illegal immigrants.

Few illegal entrants ever get as far in the system as being ordered deported by a judge. Those caught within 14 days of arriving or within 100 miles of a border or international airport are simply sent home without access to the courts. That accounts for the bulk of returned immigrants. Others, apprehended outside those limits, agree to pay their way home after brief immigration-court hearings. By leaving voluntarily, many can retain the right to return to the U.S. legally at some point.
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I-am-me



Joined: 21 Feb 2006
Location: Hermit Kingdom

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got my visa today. Does anyone know If i need to get an entry stamp to return to korea and how much that is? Question
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I-am-me wrote:
Got my visa today. Does anyone know If i need to get an entry stamp to return to korea and how much that is? Question


You may need a re-entry stamp to come back.

Yes/no and price depends on your visa and nationality.

US citizens usually have a multi-entry visa for their first year and need a re-entry permit if they have extended or changed their visa.

Everyone else needs to get a re-entry visa.

Brits get it free but must apply for it at an immigration office. Multi at your local office and singles at the airport. You can get more than one single in any year.

The rest of us pay 50k won for a multi-re-entry permit and 30k for a single. Again, singles can be obtained at the immigration office at the airport. Multiples from your local immigration office.

You can apply for a re-entry permit on the G4F portal site but there have been some problems with them not being processed properly and people getting their E2s canceled on their return.

You must have your ARC to get a re-entry permit. No ARC = no re-entry.

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