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Fishead soup



Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 3:23 pm    Post subject: Iguania Cruelty Reply with quote

I'm fed up with seeing these poor things cramped into small cages and being sold by some agumma who probrubly doesn't get the whole cold blooded concept.

For the most part these things usually die in captivity before they're able to reach full size. Some die just weeks or days after being sold. They need a U-V lamp. Without that they will not be able to properly digest their food. They also need a diet rich in dark leafy greens. Some people will tell you they can survive of iceberg lettuce thats B.S.

These things are a big impulse buy. After a couple of bottles of Mokoli in the five day market it might seem like a cool thing to do. Then again these things grow pretty big really fast. So if you plan on getting one at least do the research.
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excitinghead



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another thing my biology friend complained about was that young ones need to be fed on insects for the protein. But I doubt a single ajumma selling them would give them those.

I wish selling puppies, kittens, iguanas, chicks and god knows what else on the side of the street was made illegal. But come to think of it, the 8 year-olds that the ajummas sell them to will probably look after them much better than the ajummas themselves.
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Fishead soup



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

excitinghead wrote:
Another thing my biology friend complained about was that young ones need to be fed on insects for the protein. But I doubt a single ajumma selling them would give them those.

I wish selling puppies, kittens, iguanas, chicks and god knows what else on the side of the street was made illegal. But come to think of it, the 8 year-olds that the ajummas sell them to will probably look after them much better than the ajummas themselves.


You must be confusing Iguanas with Geekos. Iguanas are vegetarians. The odd bug won't kill them, but they should be feed mostly vegetables.
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PeterDragon



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually. Iguanas can be more accurately described as omnivores--- they're not predators in the way that snakes or gators are, but they are avid insect-eaters, and a lot of reptile fanciers will feed them meal worms along with their dailyy pile of fuits and veggies. Some reptile fanciers recommend feeding them some insets throughout their lives, not just after they stop growing.

I wonder if the Koreans have discovered how good they taste. I say that not to be morbid, but out of genuine curiousity. Iguana is a delicacy in some cultures, and Koreans seem to be up for trying new/unusual foods.
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nautilus



Joined: 26 Nov 2005
Location: Je jump, Tu jump, oui jump!

PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The fact that they all die, is what keeps the market for them alive.

Knowledge is a dangerous thing. If every person buying a pet had to read an instruction book on how to look after it properly first, soon there would be no need for the stream of newly imported animals. They'd be thriving and reproducing here.

Unfortunately the pet shop just hands over the doomed creatures, presumably with a reassurance that they like to eat gimchi and rice.
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The Bobster



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard that a lot of lizards grow their tails back if they lose them, so I had this idea : why not harvest iguana tails? Better than slaughtering pigs and cows, and if it's it's cooked right - you guessed it - tastes like chicken!

We could even cuddle and stroke the wee things a bit before chopping. Make 'em fell a little better about donating their protein. Hey, how much would a little tenderness cost? A couple of minutes, I figure. And a month or so later, see what you get? A brand new iguana tail.

CHOP! Cuddle and stroke. Then CHOP! Cuddle and stroke.

How can PETA and ALF object to such a project? Okay, the lizard feels some pain for a while, but he's not dead, and after a while, he's good as new. (Then, CHOP! Cuddle and ... ) My idea seems like a step up from whacking a cow on the head with a hammer or hanging a pig upside down to let the blood drain after the throat-cut. The lizard gets to live to a ripe old age, as long as the critter keeps growing new tails. What's wrong with this idea?

The main problem is getting people to like eating iguana tails, but McDonads and Lotteria are prime examples of how people can be persuaded to eat the most ridiculous stuff if it's packaged and marketed in the right way ...

Of course, after iguana tails, the next obvious step is Soylent Green. But that's still a secret, so don't go talking about it. Okay?

Obligatory disclaimer, for the irony-impaired : It's all a big goof. Don't get excited.
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Fishead soup



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Bobster wrote:
I heard that a lot of lizards grow their tails back if they lose them, so I had this idea : why not harvest iguana tails? Better than slaughtering pigs and cows, and if it's it's cooked right - you guessed it - tastes like chicken!

We could even cuddle and stroke the wee things a bit before chopping. Make 'em fell a little better about donating their protein. Hey, how much would a little tenderness cost? A couple of minutes, I figure. And a month or so later, see what you get? A brand new iguana tail.

CHOP! Cuddle and stroke. Then CHOP! Cuddle and stroke.

How can PETA and ALF object to such a project? Okay, the lizard feels some pain for a while, but he's not dead, and after a while, he's good as new. (Then, CHOP! Cuddle and ... ) My idea seems like a step up from whacking a cow on the head with a hammer or hanging a pig upside down to let the blood drain after the throat-cut. The lizard gets to live to a ripe old age, as long as the critter keeps growing new tails. What's wrong with this idea?

The main problem is getting people to like eating iguana tails, but McDonads and Lotteria are prime examples of how people can be persuaded to eat the most ridiculous stuff if it's packaged and marketed in the right way ...

Of course, after iguana tails, the next obvious step is Soylent Green. But that's still a secret, so don't go talking about it. Okay?

Obligatory disclaimer, for the irony-impaired : It's all a big goof. Don't get excited.


Put some soy sauce on them. Cut them up in small pieces. Tie them with Kim to a little rice ball and put them on the rotating sushi bar. I'm sure with a touch of ginger they'd be a big hit.
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The Bobster



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fishead soup wrote:
Put some soy sauce on them. Cut them up in small pieces. Tie them with Kim to a little rice ball and put them on the rotating sushi bar. I'm sure with a touch of ginger they'd be a big hit.

Sushi is just a lot of snacks running around in front of your face. When I want food, I want big food.

I was thinking about the monitor lizards I saw in the Reptile House of the Bankok Zoo. Not even as big as the Komodos we've all heard from Bali who will eat a whole pig in 10 minutes, these were big critters with tails a meter long, and I'm thinking, you could filet that tail and make a nice and small little steak ... or grind it up to make a burger or something.

Like I said, a few months later, the dude will grow the tail back, all you gotta do is feed him. Then ... chop! Cuddle and stroke.


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PeterDragon



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm pretty sure monitors and iguanas don't actually lose their tails; it's mostly small lizards like skinks and anoles that do that.

What we need is an enterprising gene splicer to combine the lizards, or maybe just make skinks that are really huge.

ALso, if you chop off a lizard's tail at just the right angle, it ill grow back TWO full sized tails. I had a pet longtail skink that had that happen to him.
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The Bobster



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PeterDragon wrote:
ALso, if you chop off a lizard's tail at just the right angle, it ill grow back TWO full sized tails. I had a pet longtail skink that had that happen to him.

Two tails for the price of one CHOP? Production value! Business economy! It's gonna work, boss! Hot DAMN! We gonna be rich!

Okay, sure, TWO strokes and TWO cuddles ... Cool
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mole



Joined: 06 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Idea Got me wondering.. With care and patience, could you get 4,8, and on branches??
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The Bobster



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mole wrote:
Idea Got me wondering.. With care and patience, could you get 4,8, and on branches??

I'm told by professional biologists that this theoretically possible. However, we have to think like businessmen here. It's really all about the bottom line : we've got a crop to raise. And harvest.

CHOP! Cuddle and stroke. CHOP! Cuddle and stroke.

Okay, like I said before, if it's a slow day, TWO cuddles and TWO strokes. Long as it doesn't push the human labor pool into overtime, that is, I'm fine with it..
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