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Yes

Joined: 21 Aug 2006 Location: outskirts of busan
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 9:47 pm Post subject: now i see... |
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...these people are insane and they have no respect for us. are the japanese this underhanded and bueracratic? i'm considering heading there next. my contract is up in about 2 weeks and i can't wait to leave. i have experienced the best and the worst here in korea, and the worst far outweighed the best. the visa system is the biggest culprit of all, really. i'm sure i could find another job here that would be peaceful and lucrative, but really on principle i'm choosing to leave because i can't accept how this visa system entraps teachers and unreasonably binds us to greedy and unscrupulous hagwon owners. it's fertile ground for many forms of abuse, and it's been so stressful for me these past few months because i had the bad luck of being employed by a well-connected and conniving lunatic, i just can't respect anything about this country's rules any longer.
plus, the students are ultimately unteachable drones (kids and adults) and no one has any notion or concern for what it takes to create a quality education environment. it's such a scam and a joke it makes me literally naseous.
consider this an amendment to my previous post "top reasons to live and work in korea." i ***don't*** recommend coming here. it's like playing russian roullette. if you get a good boss, like i originally had, life is grand, but i'm guessing there are about 3 good hagwon owners for every 10 dishonest ones. and they have the ability to make your life really, really unpleasant.
and in my opinion, female hagwon owners are the worst and should be absolutely avoided at all costs. |
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TOMODACHI-KID

Joined: 24 Apr 2007 Location: LAND OF THE RISING SUN: TAKASAGO-KATSUSHIKA
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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"YES,"
YOUR CONCERN/STATEMENT WAS VERY WELL PUT! EVERYTHING YOU HAVE MENTIONED ABOUT YOUR EXPERIENCE IS RIGHT ON; THAT IS, PARALLEL TO MY EXPERIENCE WHEN I TAUGHT AS AN ENGLISH TEACHER IN KOREA...
COME AND TEACH HERE IN JAPAN AS I AM DOING NOW. IT'S CLEANER, HOSPITABLE, AND THE WOMEN HERE ROCK!!! ONLY DOWNFALL--VERY EXPENSIVE!!!
CHEERS, AND I LIFT A CUP OF SAKE TO YOUR FREEDOM FROM THE "SYSTEM" IN KOREA AND INTO THE WELCOMING ARMS OF JAPAN....
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thaitom

Joined: 08 Feb 2003 Location: Phopphra, Thailand
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 10:47 pm Post subject: Re: now i see... |
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Yes wrote: |
...the students are ultimately unteachable drones. |
Koreans= The Borg |
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Mr. BlackCat

Joined: 30 Nov 2005 Location: Insert witty remark HERE
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 1:31 am Post subject: |
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thaitom wrote:
I find this quote unacceptable and offensive. The Borg are actually very efficient and accepting of new peoples. I think you owe them an apology. |
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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 1:31 am Post subject: Re: now i see... |
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Yes wrote: |
...these people are insane and they have no respect for us. are the japanese this underhanded and bueracratic? i'm considering heading there next. my contract is up in about 2 weeks and i can't wait to leave. i have experienced the best and the worst here in korea, and the worst far outweighed the best. the visa system is the biggest culprit of all, really. i'm sure i could find another job here that would be peaceful and lucrative, but really on principle i'm choosing to leave because i can't accept how this visa system entraps teachers and unreasonably binds us to greedy and unscrupulous hagwon owners. it's fertile ground for many forms of abuse, and it's been so stressful for me these past few months because i had the bad luck of being employed by a well-connected and conniving lunatic, i just can't respect anything about this country's rules any longer.
plus, the students are ultimately unteachable drones (kids and adults) and no one has any notion or concern for what it takes to create a quality education environment. it's such a scam and a joke it makes me literally naseous.
consider this an amendment to my previous post "top reasons to live and work in korea." i ***don't*** recommend coming here. it's like playing russian roullette. if you get a good boss, like i originally had, life is grand, but i'm guessing there are about 3 good hagwon owners for every 10 dishonest ones. and they have the ability to make your life really, really unpleasant.
and in my opinion, female hagwon owners are the worst and should be absolutely avoided at all costs. |
Korea Needs Honesty, Transparency
By Yoon Won-sup, Korea Times (August 26, 2007)
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/special/2007/08/178_8987.html
Foreigners Fight Bias
No Foreigners Allowed: Nationality Discrimination Legal in Korea
By Christopher Carpenter and Jane Han
Korea Times (December 12, 2006)
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/news_view.asp?newsIdx=3033479
Image URL
http://photo.hankooki.com/newsphoto/2006/12/12/ensor200612122018471nofor3.jpg
Korea Fails to Shed Corrupt Image By Kim Tong-hyung, Korea Times (October 4, 2006)
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/news_view.asp?newsIdx=2984893
A Country of Liars by Kim Dae-joong, Chosun Ilbo (July 3, 2005)
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200507/200507030027.html
Ex-pats Describe Korea's Culture of Corruption
by Kim Hong-jin, Chosun Ilbo (December 16, 2004)
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200412/200412160027.html
Foreigners Experience Difficulties in Living in Korea
by Jae-Dong Yu and Soo-Jung Shin, Donga.com (July 4, 2004)
http://english.donga.com/srv/service.php3?biid=2004070522448 |
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yingwenlaoshi

Joined: 12 Feb 2007 Location: ... location, location!
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 1:59 am Post subject: |
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LOL. This thread rocks.
OP, all true indeed. Takes work to get them to follow your rules. Then they try other *beep*. There's always something. Like my boss. He deducts pension correctly but submits the amount that corresponds to my original salary. I've had 2 raises. So what's he paying the health department? And I know he doesn't pay taxes. He even said to me before my last renewal that he could deduct less. I was like, "Nooo. Just deduct the proper amount." I'll hit him with what he owes me when I get near the end. I use the tax as a weapon. It's not a lot of money, but it's annoying as hell. But it always gives me an excuse. So I use it to my advantage.
Still...
Taiwan screws you before you get there. And they can fire you for a good reason, a bad reason, or no reason at all. And they can reduce your hours so as to pay you less. At least they practice this.
I don't know much about Japan, but I'll assume that the women do rock there. |
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thaitom

Joined: 08 Feb 2003 Location: Phopphra, Thailand
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 4:05 am Post subject: |
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Mr. BlackCat wrote: |
thaitom wrote:
I find this quote unacceptable and offensive. The Borg are actually very efficient and accepting of new peoples. I think you owe them an apology. |
You are right. To all the Borg , please accept my sincerest apology
I was wrong to compare you to Koreans. Please don't assimilate me. |
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