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peppermint
Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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aww, penguin, that wink in my earlier post was meant for you! 
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kermo
Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.
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You're right in pointing out that these women are quite ordinary-looking when they're just standing around. However, when they are photographed (their bits stop jiggling in the photos, so maybe you missed this), they have a knack of holding their bodies and faces in elegant ways, and this, combined with excellent lighting, makeup, costuming and re-touching, produces a marketable effect.
There are a great many beautiful women out there who can beguile in person, but don't know how to freeze their bodies and faces in pretty ways. The opposite is true as well-- sometimes the gestures and faces that result in stunning photos can look quite macabre in real life. |
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indytrucks
Joined: 09 Apr 2003
Location: The Shelf
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| Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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| kermo wrote: |
You're right in pointing out that these women are quite ordinary-looking when they're just standing around. However, when they are photographed (their bits stop jiggling in the photos, so maybe you missed this), they have a knack of holding their bodies and faces in elegant ways, and this, combined with excellent lighting, makeup, costuming and re-touching, produces a marketable effect.
There are a great many beautiful women out there who can beguile in person, but don't know how to freeze their bodies and faces in pretty ways. The opposite is true as well-- sometimes the gestures and faces that result in stunning photos can look quite macabre in real life. |
Geez. The way you tell it, it actually sounds like there's some, you know, skill involved in having your picture taken. Maybe I should reconsider the whole ANTM thing, and my general disdain for the whole process ...
... or maybe not. |
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newton kabiddles
Joined: 31 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 4:49 pm Post subject: Re: US next top model... am i missing something?? |
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I think it's premised on the whole girl next door makes it. Alot more women can relate to these women than they could gorgeous women who we all know could be models with or without the show. After all, if the women were really beautiful they wouldn't need the show to make it in modelling.
But when the girls are not so perfect people can better vicariously live through them. |
Right, it's like Jennifer Anniston. She's not good-looking and she's not much of an actress, but she attracts a large female audience and that equals big advertising dollars. |
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The evil penguin
Joined: 24 May 2003
Location: Doing something naughty near you.....
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| Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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| peppermint wrote: |
| aww, penguin, that wink in my earlier post was meant for you! |
YIPEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!! * the evil penguin does an excited little dance and collapses in a fit of ecstatic giggling* |
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Sleepy in Seoul
Joined: 15 May 2004
Location: Going in ever decreasing circles until I eventually disappear up my own fundament - in NZ
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| Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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| And it is deliberate. |
Yes, it is. Deliberately chosen by Australian program directors who chose not to buy the home grown crap and chose to import foreign crap. |
The free trade agreement has significantly reduced the Australian governments ability to regulate its own media. The Australian media has a choice over what tv shows may air but no control over how much foreign content is shown. So you are wrong, the Australian programme directors have no choice over importing foreign crap.
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The FTA significantly limits the [Australian] government's right to regulate the Australian media, including:
* In the Multi-Channel environment for Free To Air TV, 80% of channels will be free of local content regulation.
* Pay TV will only have to spend 10% of their total production budget on local content, and this only applies to arts, children's, documentary, drama and educational shows - other subjects can have no local content quotas.
* In the area of Australian film, the ability to regulate has been lost. |
http://www.tradewatchoz.org/AUSFTA/Index.html#Content |
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ED209
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
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I liked the latest series when they were doing the covergirl add and the blond one(they were down to a latino, a russian and this one) had to say something about her life and ATM, so she comes with 'When I had a baby I thought my life was over, then American Top Model...'
One of the guys(the gay one, no not him the other one, no the shorter one) made her do it again.
(I don't watch the show I swear, I was cooking some pasta and it just came on by itself, ahem, anyone catch the Apprentice?) |
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Tiger Beer
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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I leave the shows on as background noise all the time.
One of my biggest annoyances with all of those shows is that there are always 3 or 4 women who give up too easily or think their career is ruined if they are kicked off the show. Then there is always the one or two who say through this great opportunity they learned they'd rather just be in small town Oklahoma with their boyfriend.
To me, being on the show, means instant celebrities and career for life no matter what! It's like winning the lottery. Why you'd just give up because you didn't get the #1 spot, is kind of weird.
I also get annoyed by the two or three women who launch some supposed sob story. I.E., I grew up in a place that wasn't a super wealthy rich suburb, it was really hard for me. If I have to go back to where other minorities live and I grew up too, I just don't know if I can do that. Oh God, I need to win this thing so I can just live a normal life like everyone else. Camera cut back to the two Jays and Tyra sobbing their eyes out. |
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jessie-b
Joined: 17 Apr 2006
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haha...so true. Even if you get kicked off that show early it still looks good on a resume. I bet the girls don't really give up...at least I hope they move to NY and star as models on Project Runway.
Tyra loves the sob stories. I love it when she plays the harsh yet loving auntie.
BTW, does anyone know when Project Runway is on? Miss that show.  |
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ChimpumCallao
Joined: 17 May 2005
Location: your mom
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| Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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to the OP-
the reason that the girls on the show are good looking to mediocre is due to a number of reasons, #1 being the fact that if you truly ARE model material, you would be pounding the pavement in New York city and working at least some form of runway...not auditioning for a third rate reality show that has never churned out a true supermodel.
second of all, its a television show and is meant to be entertaining, meaning they will take 'personality' (drama) over real good looks.
plus, some of the girls truly are beautiful, but yes i agree...not representative of what an actual aspiring model would/should look like.
that said...bring on cycle nine! I love the drama. |
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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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| Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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| indytrucks wrote: |
| kermo wrote: |
You're right in pointing out that these women are quite ordinary-looking when they're just standing around. However, when they are photographed (their bits stop jiggling in the photos, so maybe you missed this), they have a knack of holding their bodies and faces in elegant ways, and this, combined with excellent lighting, makeup, costuming and re-touching, produces a marketable effect.
There are a great many beautiful women out there who can beguile in person, but don't know how to freeze their bodies and faces in pretty ways. The opposite is true as well-- sometimes the gestures and faces that result in stunning photos can look quite macabre in real life. |
Geez. The way you tell it, it actually sounds like there's some, you know, skill involved in having your picture taken. Maybe I should reconsider the whole ANTM thing, and my general disdain for the whole process ...
... or maybe not. |
If that's your photo in that avatar, Indytrucks, you'd better work on those skills fast!  |
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bejarano-korea
Joined: 13 Dec 2006
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Most designers are male and gay or traditionally they have been, and they find the male shape attractive.
Thats why the fashion industry will never have curvy women on a catwalk.
Why the ordinary woman on the street would buy into a culture that finds the vast majority of them repulsive is to me one of lifes biggest mysteries.
Also one of lifes biggest mysteries is who they deem to be 'supermodels' Lily Cole for example is bloody ugly, and it is not becuase she is ginger before anyone starts. I knew a ginger girl at Uni and she was a hottie beyond all measure.
But Lily Cole looks like Ronald McDonald and if the fashion industry was based on beauty, Lily Cole would have had her P45 a long time ago. |
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indytrucks
Joined: 09 Apr 2003
Location: The Shelf
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| Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 1:10 am Post subject: |
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| Big_Bird wrote: |
| If that's your photo in that avatar, Indytrucks, you'd better work on those skills fast! |
That's not me.
He's far better looking. |
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browneyedgirl
Joined: 17 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 7:33 pm Post subject: Re: US next top model... am i missing something?? |
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| The evil penguin wrote: |
Out of all the models strutting around... not one do i find attractive. Not one. .. |
What are you talking about? Many go on to pursue lucrative careers posing for Target and Avon.
Nah, that�s what makes the show so great, none of them are really that special; except for maybe Elyse Sewell who is doing pretty well in the Hong Kong market; but none of the winners went on to super model fame after they won. They pick girls based on personalities (which ones will clash and make for better ratings) than looks. |
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the eye
Joined: 29 Jan 2004
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| Yeah, that show is a well scripted drama. If you watch closely (i'm embarrassed to say I have), you'll notice that all those cheesy one liners that Tyred Blanks, the judges and fashion experts say, are adited in at a later time. |
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