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gatorchick82



Joined: 24 Oct 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 5:35 am    Post subject: Safety in the Philippines Reply with quote

Has anyone had any bad experiences concerning safety in the Philippines? A couple friends and I are thinking of going to Manila and then to Cebu or another beachy area. Thanks.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 2:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Safety in the Philippines Reply with quote

gatorchick82 wrote:
Has anyone had any bad experiences concerning safety in the Philippines? A couple friends and I are thinking of going to Manila and then to Cebu or another beachy area. Thanks.


Use common street smarts in the cities, don't flash large sums of cash, use metered taxis (with the meter running) for your travel, carry lots of SMALL notes of local currency, use the money changers in the malls, and you will be fine.

I am not fond of Manila but I love the Visayas (central Philippines) and Cebu is always fun. Boracay and Bohol are also a great beachy places to spend a few days too.
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Matman



Joined: 02 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Avoid metred taxis in Manila. Do like the locals and use the Jeepneys.
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IlIlNine



Joined: 15 Jun 2005
Location: Gunpo, Gyonggi, SoKo

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Watch your pockets though!

I've been to the Philippines a few times and I've never had a problem.
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traxxe



Joined: 21 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taxi safety and watch for scams.

I just got back from a 10 day trip not too long ago. I was attempted to be scammed a couple of times. I let one guy succeed.

He came up to me to shake my hand. I wouldn't shake his hand. I was at a mall about a mile from my hotel. He then pipes up he works security at my hotel. He's here getting his son some ice cream for his birthday. I know this is a scam. So I ask, "What hotel am I staying at?" He answer the correct hotel. Crap. Either he followed me here with my girl from there or he works there and I don't want to take a chance with my laptop, etc.

I gave him 200 pesos. He asked for 500. I told him I would beat the shit out of him before I gave him that many. I immediately went back to the hotel, I took a camera picture of him when I was leaving on my phone. He didn't work there but they printed the photo and said someone had been doing this to a couple of guests there. They gave the photo to the security guard and told me if they saw him while I was there trying to hit up more guests I could watch him get the shit kicked out him.

I just checked out and switched hotels just in case. It was worth 200 pesos just in case the fucker was security and the place was ransoming my security.

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One taxi I got into had a meter. He wouldn't turn his meter on and then just started driving. He told me he would charge me fifty pesos to get to the Mall of Asia. About right, then he started slowing down and turned onto a side rode. I wrapped my keys in my knuckles and he declared he was going to puts some gas in. A truck rolled up behind us with curtains covered the front windows. Crap, about to get jacked. I told the guy I was an American Police Officer and that I had just texted his plate number to my friend. If anything would happen they would notify the Manila police. He sped out of the alley and let me out, the truck backed up and went away. He never asked for a fair or anything.

I got another cab.

Always take metered cabs.
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ajgeddes



Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Yongsan

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

traxxe wrote:
Taxi safety and watch for scams.

I just got back from a 10 day trip not too long ago. I was attempted to be scammed a couple of times. I let one guy succeed.

He came up to me to shake my hand. I wouldn't shake his hand. I was at a mall about a mile from my hotel. He then pipes up he works security at my hotel. He's here getting his son some ice cream for his birthday. I know this is a scam. So I ask, "What hotel am I staying at?" He answer the correct hotel. Crap. Either he followed me here with my girl from there or he works there and I don't want to take a chance with my laptop, etc.

I gave him 200 pesos. He asked for 500. I told him I would beat the *beep* out of him before I gave him that many. I immediately went back to the hotel, I took a camera picture of him when I was leaving on my phone. He didn't work there but they printed the photo and said someone had been doing this to a couple of guests there. They gave the photo to the security guard and told me if they saw him while I was there trying to hit up more guests I could watch him get the *beep* kicked out him.

I just checked out and switched hotels just in case. It was worth 200 pesos just in case the *beep* was security and the place was ransoming my security.


Why did you give him 200 pesos? It seems to me like you just gave him 200 pesos for no reason.
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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 8:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Safety in the Philippines Reply with quote

gatorchick82 wrote:
Has anyone had any bad experiences concerning safety in the Philippines? A couple friends and I are thinking of going to Manila and then to Cebu or another beachy area. Thanks.

Beach areas always feel really safe. So does Cebu.

It's just Manila that gets shadey and dicey. Most people avoid Manila, just take the first plane out as soon as possible. If you were thinking of Manila for clothing shopping, then I'd recommend almost any other place in the Philippines, as they are all loaded up with the same brand name stores in all the shopping malls all over the Philippines.

There are tourist things to do in Manila, but then again there are tourist things to do almost everywhere else in the Philippines as well, so I'd focus on the non-Manila places!
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indytrucks



Joined: 09 Apr 2003
Location: The Shelf

PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ajgeddes wrote:
traxxe wrote:
Taxi safety and watch for scams.

I just got back from a 10 day trip not too long ago. I was attempted to be scammed a couple of times. I let one guy succeed.

He came up to me to shake my hand. I wouldn't shake his hand. I was at a mall about a mile from my hotel. He then pipes up he works security at my hotel. He's here getting his son some ice cream for his birthday. I know this is a scam. So I ask, "What hotel am I staying at?" He answer the correct hotel. Crap. Either he followed me here with my girl from there or he works there and I don't want to take a chance with my laptop, etc.

I gave him 200 pesos. He asked for 500. I told him I would beat the *beep* out of him before I gave him that many. I immediately went back to the hotel, I took a camera picture of him when I was leaving on my phone. He didn't work there but they printed the photo and said someone had been doing this to a couple of guests there. They gave the photo to the security guard and told me if they saw him while I was there trying to hit up more guests I could watch him get the *beep* kicked out him.

I just checked out and switched hotels just in case. It was worth 200 pesos just in case the *beep* was security and the place was ransoming my security.


Why did you give him 200 pesos? It seems to me like you just gave him 200 pesos for no reason.


I was thinking the same thing. I don't get it.

If I had to give one safety tip for the Philippines, it would be about taking the bancas, or the longtailed boats, which most of the time is a necessity if you're going to an island or beach. Basically, if the banca looks too full or too old, is ready to sail in bad, bad weather or something just plain doesn't feel right, take another one, or wait for the next one. Ferry and banca sinking are commonplace in the Philippines, and very rarely, if at all, do they provide life jackets.
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justagirl



Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Cheonan/Portland

PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally, I would NOT ride in a jeepney in Manila--I would take a metered taxi--ask the driver first if he will turn on his meter. If he won't, don't get in.

When you are in smaller cities, there may not be taxis, and then jeepneys are okay--it's just the ones in Manila were very crowded, there wasn't room for luggage, and it didn't look safe--it just didn't feel like a good idea.

My husband and I went to the Philippines twice and the only problem we had was having to leave so soon! If you do go to Manila, stay in Makate, near the Greenbelt. Then head off to someplace with a nice beach and enjoy!
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Matman



Joined: 02 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For carrying luggage of course you need a metred taxi but you'd better have the right change unless you feel like giving a "tip". The rip-off merchants are around but just ignore them and they go away. traxxe did just about everything wrong in that situation. Just treat them like they don't exist and they go away. Definitely don't give them any money. If you're female beware that most of the bars are pick-up bars, especially in Makate and Ermita although there is plenty of 'normal' nightlife too. Ermita is the cheapest of those two foreigner-friendly areas.
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traxxe



Joined: 21 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I gave him 200 pesos in case he did work at the hotel he followed me from. Last thing I want is my shit getting stolen. I had my fiancee's engagement ring check in with the security department's safe too. It was worth 200 pesos just to buy me time to get back and check out in case he was a security personel like he suggested.

The cab thing was stupid. I should have made the meter turn on.
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Matman



Joined: 02 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it usual for hotel security personnel to demand money from you while you're out shopping? And is it usual that if you don't hand over your money your belongings at the hotel are at risk? What sort of hotels do you stay in?

No offence but you sound like the sort of guy who would fall for the Bangkok gems scam and then get all upset when you get home to find your "precious stones" are lumps of coloured glass.

You have to be more streetwise in places like the Philippines.
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ajgeddes



Joined: 28 Apr 2004
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still don't understand why you gave him 200 pesos. So, he told you he was getting ice cream and works security at your hotel, so you gave him 200 pesos? And then he says he wants 500?
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indytrucks



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 4:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ajgeddes wrote:
I still don't understand why you gave him 200 pesos. So, he told you he was getting ice cream and works security at your hotel, so you gave him 200 pesos? And then he says he wants 500?


I'm happy it's not just me who isn't getting it. Was the 200 pesos meant to be some kinda bribe to watch your stuff? A generous tip for the same purpose? Help me out here.
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ajgeddes



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 4:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

indytrucks wrote:
ajgeddes wrote:
I still don't understand why you gave him 200 pesos. So, he told you he was getting ice cream and works security at your hotel, so you gave him 200 pesos? And then he says he wants 500?


I'm happy it's not just me who isn't getting it. Was the 200 pesos meant to be some kinda bribe to watch your stuff? A generous tip for the same purpose? Help me out here.


All I know is that I am going to start walking up to tourists and then telling them I work at their hotels and then see if they give me $5. Kind of like a prize for guessing the right hotel.
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