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Morton
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 Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 2:43 am Post subject: Quitting a Public School Job |
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Hi folks
I'm wondering how easy it is to quit a Public School Job and then get another job in Korea.
For many reasons i would prefer not to go into i would like to leave my current position. My contract says 60 days notice which i am prepared to work.
However, i have read i need a letter of release etc. Are schools usually forthcoming with this or is this used to prevent teachers leaving?
Also i'm looking to move into business English. If anyone knows any companies then please let me know.
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bosintang
Joined: 01 Dec 2003
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| Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 3:44 am Post subject: |
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| To work legally, you need that LoR. Schools are not required to give it you, and many won't. I think all you can do is ask or threaten to leave without notice if they won't give you a LoR. |
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yingwenlaoshi
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
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The LoR is simply stupid. As long as you want another job, you should be able to get it. Immigration can do whatever they want, but as long as your ARC has been cancelled, I don't see why immi cannot just verify everything to make sure you're not still employed with where you quit. Just handing in your resignation, having 2 copies of this with your signature and your former boss's, and handing in to immi should suffice.
I don't get this whole letter of release thing. Immi and Korea need a swift kick in the arse.
If you give proper notice, or your working somewhere where they aren't paying you, that should be enough. This holding you prisonner for the sake of Korea and Koreans is just fkg mental.
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bosintang
Joined: 01 Dec 2003
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| Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 4:27 am Post subject: |
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| yingwenlaoshi wrote: |
The LoR is simply stupid. As long as you want another job, you should be able to get it. Immigration can do whatever they want, but as long as your ARC has been cancelled, I don't see why immi cannot just verify everything to make sure you're not still employed with where you quit. Just handing in your resignation, having 2 copies of this with your signature and your former boss's, and handing in to immi should suffice.
I don't get this whole letter of release thing. Immi and Korea need a swift kick in the arse. |
It's not about immigratoin verifying that you finished your job. It's about your employer giving you permission to work another.
Draconian and stupid? Yes. |
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yingwenlaoshi
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 4:32 am Post subject: |
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| bosintang wrote: |
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The LoR is simply stupid. As long as you want another job, you should be able to get it. Immigration can do whatever they want, but as long as your ARC has been cancelled, I don't see why immi cannot just verify everything to make sure you're not still employed with where you quit. Just handing in your resignation, having 2 copies of this with your signature and your former boss's, and handing in to immi should suffice.
I don't get this whole letter of release thing. Immi and Korea need a swift kick in the arse. |
It's not about immigratoin verifying that you finished your job. It's about your employer giving you permission to work another.
Draconian and stupid? Yes. |
Is that really what it is though? Why should your ex-employer have any say? I don't think that's true. If it is then it's pretty fkn stupid. I think it's probably more of a formality or some stupid red tape. Did someone think this through and just decided we'd be less apt to quit because of this? Or is it just stupidly thought-out bureaucracy?
Is it a deal where it's preventing you to work for your ex-employer's competition. I don't get it. I understand the visa thing, but... I'm sure that if you went through the proper channels that there'd be no problem getting another job. |
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Atavistic
Joined: 22 May 2006
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| Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 4:34 am Post subject: |
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| You do not need a letter of release for immigration. Usually the NEW employer wants to see it, but it's NOT an immi requirement. |
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yingwenlaoshi
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| Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 4:39 am Post subject: |
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| You do not need a letter of release for immigration. Usually the NEW employer wants to see it, but it's NOT an immi requirement. |
Yeah, I think it's a myth. If your ARC is cancelled then you can get a new job. Maybe to get it cancelled upon quitting you need some proof, hence the letter of release deal. Immi need proof that you no longer work there. That's it. Not some permission from Joe Blow, former employer. |
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bosintang
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| Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 4:39 am Post subject: |
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| You do not need a letter of release for immigration. Usually the NEW employer wants to see it, but it's NOT an immi requirement. |
This is not true. Immigration will make exceptions if you can explain your case carefully and your immigration officer is sympathetic, but standard procedure is that you must have a LoR from your employer to change sponsors. This is not the same as your visa expiring (then it's ok to change jobs without a LoR.)
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| If you give proper notice, or your working somewhere where they aren't paying you, that should be enough. This holding you prisonner for the sake of Korea and Koreans is just fkg mental. |
Completely agree. It's manipulative and worse, inneffective. But is there anything about the Korean English education system that is a role model? |
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yingwenlaoshi
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| Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 4:47 am Post subject: |
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| bosintang wrote: |
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| You do not need a letter of release for immigration. Usually the NEW employer wants to see it, but it's NOT an immi requirement. |
This is not true. Immigration will make exceptions if you can explain your case carefully and your immigration officer is sympathetic, but standard procedure is that you must have a LoR from your employer to change sponsors. This is not the same as your visa expiring (then it's ok to change jobs without a LoR.)
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| If you give proper notice, or your working somewhere where they aren't paying you, that should be enough. This holding you prisonner for the sake of Korea and Koreans is just fkg mental. |
Completely agree. It's manipulative and worse, inneffective. But is there anything about the Korean English education system that is a role model? |
If you no longer work for an employer, it's easily verifiable by immi.
"Does he work for you anymore?"
"No."
"Ok, we need written proof."
"No"
"Ok, goodbye"
I don't think so. It's more like, "Ok then goodbye" and they'd go ahead and cancel your visa. If not, then I guess you could run into some stupid red tape deal. Might take some phone calls and a little time, but it would be pretty quickly taken care of.
Once you're not employed, it's up to immi to decide whether you can regain employment. Not you ex-boss. That's all BS. Now, on the other hand, they might ask some questions about why you quit, how you quit, why you were fired, etc. Then some problems can arise.
Immi is god. |
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Atavistic
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