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brandonhill31



Joined: 02 May 2007
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 11:28 pm    Post subject: no pension question Reply with quote

i've just signed on a new school, and the situation seems pretty decent. but in the contract there is nothing about taking out pension. and i asked him and he said its not important, you just keep the money right and no get any back later. is there any problem with this? am i getting shafted out of any money? any one have a take on this?
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koon_taung_daeng



Joined: 28 Jan 2007
Location: south korea

PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes your getting shafted they have to match your money and then you get double back
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Jizzo T. Clown



Joined: 27 Mar 2006
Location: at my wit's end

PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They tried to pull the same thing on me at my public school. When I asked the finance office (and later the provincial office) they told me that "It's ok--we're just giving it to you every month instead of holding it out and giving you a lump sum at the end." Thing is, that meant they weren't contributing their 4.5%.

When I asked about that, they (both places) said that I wouldn't be getting their contribution anyway--only my 4.5% which would be deducted every month. After paying a visit to the pension office and having them call the school, I'm happy to say that this month they have taken out everything they were supposed to take out.

So don't listen to this BS. Take it up with the pension office and have them set things straight.

Here's a link to the thread where this was discussed:
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 12:35 am    Post subject: Re: no pension question Reply with quote

brandonhill31 wrote:
i've just signed on a new school, and the situation seems pretty decent. but in the contract there is nothing about taking out pension. and i asked him and he said its not important, you just keep the money right and no get any back later. is there any problem with this? am i getting shafted out of any money? any one have a take on this?


No pension means your boss is going to put a million won of your money (his portion of your pension contribution) into his pocket.

You can also bet that he won't be paying into the national health care plan (NHIC) either (even if he does take the deductions from your pay) because that would flag you to the pension plan.

Sucks to you you. It's gonna be a long year.
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brandonhill31



Joined: 02 May 2007
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 1:15 am    Post subject: thanks Reply with quote

thanks for the help, i will head to the office tomorrow for a throw down. also i just read over my post, and yes sadly i am an english teacher.
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm happy to say that this month they have taken out everything they were supposed to take out.


Make sure they take out for the prior months that they haven't paid yet...in the end you'll be happy, and that's not a gay joke either... Very Happy
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Jizzo T. Clown



Joined: 27 Mar 2006
Location: at my wit's end

PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, they'd taken out for the previous months as well. No worries (anymore)...
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sojourner1



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug

PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So if you're not getting pension taken out, you don't have health insurance, and you are not even legally employed.

If you work like this and come back for another contract, to my understanding, you will be caught and forced to pay back the pension and health care insurance amounts for that year your employer didn't pay in to the government systems. This is when you find out your previous employer robbed you blind!

This is bologny that a public school principal is trying to line his pockets, turn him in by seeking to get your situation rectified through the provincial office, pension office, and labor office. That would be my strategy for dealing with corrupt principals and directors though I have not done this yet.


Speaking of pension, is there a website we all can easily check out balances and deposits with to ensure everything is going as it should???
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jizzo T. Clown wrote:
When I asked about that, they (both places) said that I wouldn't be getting their contribution anyway--only my 4.5% which would be deducted every month. After paying a visit to the pension office and having them call the school, I'm happy to say that this month they have taken out everything they were supposed to take out.


That's a very dangerous game the accounting staff was playing there. Even in Korea, embezzlers can find themselves in jail and/or fired. There's a nifty little manual that the school's finance office is provided with. It's from the Metropolitan/Provinicial Office of Education and has all the procedures listed quite clearly on how to pay the foreign teacher. Blowing off that manual at the low level of the school is just not a good idea, careerwise, for the accounting staff.
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