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| Based on your personal experience, which of the following is most accurate? |
| Western men date Korean women significantly more often |
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| Western men date Korean women slightly more often |
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| Western men and women have the same rate of interracial relationships in Korea |
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| Western women date Korean men slightly more often |
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| Western women date Korean men significantly more often |
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ChimpumCallao
Joined: 17 May 2005
Location: your mom
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| We are led to believe that - despite being fat, ugly, loser freaks of genetics - white males in Korea are able to overcome language, cultural and social barriers (barriers such as vehement hostility towards mixed-race dating) and become Charisma Men ('The dichotomy between the perception of these guys in their home countries and in Japan was amazing to me. This made me think of Superman; on his home planet of Krypton, Superman was nobody special, and he certainly didn't have super powers. But when he arrived on earth -- well, you know the rest.') |
Exactamundo!
They are obviously losers and social retards and can't get laid back home but once they hit Korea they have enough charisma to overcome a language barrier and social stigamas to be able to beat off women with a
faeces covered stick.
Something doesn't add up. :?
NB: Just read the 'charisma man' entry on wikipedia you have left a link for: Fascinating stuff, is that in South Korea also? |
There seems to be something else that no one has pointed out yet. As a man, one is usually much more likely to fare better with the local women than in ones home country.
Every man seems to have a certain range of sexual potential. Based on a whole equation of variables including physical appearance, personality (humor/intelligence), wealth, power, talent, etc.. There is a certain level or type of woman, a man can attract. For an extreme example, it would be unlikely to see a 160lb Macdonald's counter worker with a Victoria secret lingerie model. A professional athlete would be a more likely match....
No matter what the mans potential may be in his home environment/country, his potential increases when he goes abroad. Any man has the added advantage of adding exotic/rare/interesting to his personal score of attractiveness to the opposite sex. This is the extra push, or the foot in the door, that a lot of expat guys use when they travel/live abroad.
So, it not altogether important if you're a pimply warcraft nerd in your own country, or if you were the hunky starter for your high school football team. In both cases, you are going to do just a bit better with the local ladies, because guess what?? You're automatically interesting! You look different, you have a funny accent, different behavior, and lots of personal stories about another land far far away.
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this is quite the blanket statement and I find it to be mostly untrue.
For the "sexy foreigner" thing to work, one must be at least somewhat attractive. I knew one or two guys in Korea that could not ever pull, even in the land of kimchi and honey.
Secondly, there are nationalities where this does not work. An African in Asia, is not going to have the foreign mystique and draw that a westerner would. A Bangledeshi guy in the IT dept at an American university is not going to have the ladies swooning. The female German foreign exchange student at my high school never got asked out on a date. So it really depends on what foreigner goes to what country and their attractiveness.
oh- and what was said about blonde becky was not nice, especially since jessica biel is kind of a horse face. but who am i to talk, im no shakira. sigh. |
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Pligganease
Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: The deep south...
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| Plig, did you see what you did? You took the insulting line and quoted it. Made that one line the topic of its own post. Nobody else did that. Just you. It made you look really small. |
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just another day
Joined: 12 Jul 2007
Location: Living with the Alaskan Inuits!!
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 5:59 am Post subject: |
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hmm... the two western guys i know who always talked about their korean 'gfs' in korea. i remember they always would be late to something, and say "oh yeah, i just had a date". eventually later admitted to me that the girls they they were datingwere prostitutes. so they were late because their "date" was visiting a prostitute.
that explains why some posters here talk about prostitutes all the time.
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Canadian Club
Joined: 12 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 6:05 am Post subject: |
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| I date Korean men... the ones I've been with have been fabulous. I don't think I'd marry one, but I doubt I'd marry a white one either. |
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nateium
Joined: 21 Aug 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 7:23 am Post subject: |
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| ChimpumCallao wrote: |
| nateium wrote: |
There seems to be something else that no one has pointed out yet. As a man, one is usually much more likely to fare better with the local women than in ones home country.
Every man seems to have a certain range of sexual potential. Based on a whole equation of variables including physical appearance, personality (humor/intelligence), wealth, power, talent, etc.. There is a certain level or type of woman, a man can attract. For an extreme example, it would be unlikely to see a 160lb Macdonald's counter worker with a Victoria secret lingerie model. A professional athlete would be a more likely match....
No matter what the mans potential may be in his home environment/country, his potential increases when he goes abroad. Any man has the added advantage of adding exotic/rare/interesting to his personal score of attractiveness to the opposite sex. This is the extra push, or the foot in the door, that a lot of expat guys use when they travel/live abroad.
So, it not altogether important if you're a pimply warcraft nerd in your own country, or if you were the hunky starter for your high school football team. In both cases, you are going to do just a bit better with the local ladies, because guess what?? You're automatically interesting! You look different, you have a funny accent, different behavior, and lots of personal stories about another land far far away.
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this is quite the blanket statement and I find it to be mostly untrue.
For the "sexy foreigner" thing to work, one must be at least somewhat attractive. I knew one or two guys in Korea that could not ever pull, even in the land of kimchi and honey.
Secondly, there are nationalities where this does not work. An African in Asia, is not going to have the foreign mystique and draw that a westerner would. A Bangledeshi guy in the IT dept at an American university is not going to have the ladies swooning. The female German foreign exchange student at my high school never got asked out on a date. So it really depends on what foreigner goes to what country and their attractiveness.
oh- and what was said about blonde becky was not nice, especially since jessica biel is kind of a horse face. but who am i to talk, im no shakira. sigh. |
Ok. Well... it works for me, and a lot of other white guys especially. I don't think I made a blanket statement at all. Attraction is obviously a very complex and subjective issue, and I was attempting to express an idea about just one variable.
You're right though that the nationality is an important factor. African guys do very well in Japan however. A smart good looking Bengali guy in the US just may be more interesting with his accent etc,...who knows? I don't think his particular nationality would make his less attractive in that case. Maybe your German friend was just ugly or had a bad personality, and who's to say her nationality was still not working for her? Maybe nothing can help your guy friends who couldn't find Korean girlfriends....even with the added advantage of being rare and unusual.
The point is not that it's always easy for everyone, but that it's very often easier outside your home country. In many places, it's at least easier than it is for the local men. |
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endo
Joined: 14 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul...my home
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 7:38 am Post subject: |
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hmm... the two western guys i know who always talked about their korean 'gfs' in korea. i remember they always would be late to something, and say "oh yeah, i just had a date". eventually later admitted to me that the girls they they were datingwere prostitutes. so they were late because their "date" was visiting a prostitute.
that explains why some posters here talk about prostitutes all the time. |
Well I think that reflects more upon the comapany you keep than anything else. Cause I've never had a friend of mine in Seoul do this to me, and I have a hell of a lot more Caucasian friends than you do over here.
And there you go agin with you belief that Western men who dat Korean girls are in reality dating prostitutes.
Keep saying what ever you need to make you feel better, but you just sound more and more pathetic.
But it just really reflects your own insecurities.
What kind of girls do you date? Western women? I doubt it. You can play all tough because you're behind a computer screen, but we both really know what makes you tick don't we?
Are you frustrated by the lack of your own dating options? Are you tired of beautiful Korean girls dating Western men, while reciprically you're on the short end of the stick.
I doubt you date Korean girls (at least recently) for a plethora of reasons. And this makes you angry deep down inside and thus you feel comfort by dispearging them and labeling them whores.
Honestly dude that really sad.
I hope eventually you can find a woman of your own and be happy. Cause we both know you're not happy with your social/romantic life right now. Quit hiding behind a computer screen. You know it's true.
Only when you start to become happy, will you stop caring about why some Korean girls choose to date men from outside their nationality. |
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endo
Joined: 14 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul...my home
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 7:43 am Post subject: |
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And for all the Western women applauding just another day for "sticking up for them" just look how he really feels about women.
He has several times on this board labled Korean men who date Western men as essentially prostitutes.
He's no f-ing feminist. He's a sad insecure little man who's trying to play the friend game with y'all.
And you give him attention which makes him feel good because deep down he is a lonely lonely man.
But what's even more sad is although many Western women applaud him, they likely wouldn't have any interest what so ever in him. |
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just another day
Joined: 12 Jul 2007
Location: Living with the Alaskan Inuits!!
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 7:45 am Post subject: |
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^ what are u talking about?
i don't know ANY korean girls dating white guys in korea or america.
and like i said, i know 4 korean guys who married white girls last year.
i've dated white girls that are pretty damm hot. some were very conservative, some were very wild. some were born in america, some were european americans.
and like i said, two white friends who talked about "dating" korean girls, admitted the dates involved prostitutes.
if you think im making this up... thats your choice to. but obviously, the thread is talking about "FROM YOUR EXPERIENCE".
you see my challenged friend, people have different experiences in life. to constantly just hear one point of view, without seeing another is a trait of a closed minded and insecure person. |
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just another day
Joined: 12 Jul 2007
Location: Living with the Alaskan Inuits!!
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 7:50 am Post subject: |
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And for all the Western women applauding just another day for "sticking up for them" just look how he really feels about women.
He has several times on this board labled Korean men who date Western men as essentially prostitutes.
He's no f-ing feminist. He's a sad insecure little man who's trying to play the friend game with y'all.
And you give him attention which makes him feel good because deep down he is a lonely lonely man.
But what's even more sad is although many Western women applaud him, they likely wouldn't have any interest what so ever in him. |
u know, a lot of western men do come to asia looking for that asiaphile, little subservient maid fantasy that hollywood feeds them. im sure everyone remembers enough hollywood movies to remember what i am talking about.
the thing is, you won't find what ur looking for in korea. maybe thailand or mainland china you will. even the posters here admit that its easier to get a good looking girl just for being a white guy in china.
*shrugs*
thats just the truth. sorry to say. i always assumed that the posters here are angry because they thought they would be treated like a king in korea because they were white, and are pissed off to find out it isn't true.
there are stereotypes that i have heard about korean guys that date white girls and korean girls that date white guys.
the stereotypes are that korean girls who date white guys, are usually uglier and weirder than your average korean girl. or are "fallback" options who cannot get married because they are divorced and are over 35.
the stereotypes of korean guys who date white girls are, that white girls are taking the tall, good looking korean guys. or the korean guy is a "stud".
now, not all stereotypes are true of course. but those are the ones i've heard, on "the other side". |
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endo
Joined: 14 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul...my home
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 9:04 am Post subject: |
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| just another day wrote: |
the stereotypes are that korean girls who date white guys, are usually uglier and weirder than your average korean girl. or are "fallback" options who cannot get married because they are divorced and are over 35.
the stereotypes of korean guys who date white girls are, that white girls are taking the tall, good looking korean guys. or the korean guy is a "stud".
now, not all stereotypes are true of course. but those are the ones i've heard, on "the other side". |
But don't you see how these beliefs are used to protect your own insecurities?
Korean girl dates a white guy = she must be ugly, too old, or a *beep*
Korean man dates a white girl = he must be a stud
You might live in a world of stereotypes, but I live in a world of reality. Remember I live in Seoul while you thoudands of miles across the Pacific pretend like you do.
Perhaps you believe Korean women who date white men are ugly, too old, or whores because you're jelous that they didn't give you the time of day.
You do appear to have a aura of negativity when you talk about Korean women. Why is that? |
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endo
Joined: 14 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul...my home
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 9:11 am Post subject: |
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And do you know what's most interesting?
You feel all proud about creating the label angry waygook male (awm). You base this on the retarted posts made by some males here who harp on the physical shape of some of the Western females in Korea.
Besides the fact that some of my gyopo friends here say the same thing about Western women (I personally disagree - not my style).
You on the other hand go on to call Korean women who date Western men, ugly, old, or prostitutes.
That's much more harsh than calling a woman fat!
So what does that make you just another day?
It makes you a God damn hypocrite, that's for sure. But there's something more too.... |
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blynch
Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Location: UCLA
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 9:18 am Post subject: |
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And do you know what's most interesting?
You feel all proud about creating the label angry waygook male (awm). You base this on the retarted posts made by some males here who harp on the physical shape of some of the Western females in Korea.
Besides the fact that some of my gyopo friends here say the same thing about Western women (I personally disagree - not my style).
You on the other hand go on to call Korean women who date Western men, ugly, old, or prostitutes.
That's much more harsh than calling a woman fat!
So what does that make you just another day?
It makes you a God damn hypocrite, that's for sure. But there's something more too.... |
so true... (including yours) |
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just another day
Joined: 12 Jul 2007
Location: Living with the Alaskan Inuits!!
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 9:24 am Post subject: |
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And do you know what's most interesting?
You feel all proud about creating the label angry waygook male (awm). You base this on the retarted posts made by some males here who harp on the physical shape of some of the Western females in Korea.
Besides the fact that some of my gyopo friends here say the same thing about Western women (I personally disagree - not my style).
You on the other hand go on to call Korean women who date Western men, ugly, old, or prostitutes.
That's much more harsh than calling a woman fat!
So what does that make you just another day?
It makes you a God damn hypocrite, that's for sure. But there's something more too.... |
you make these connections that I am speaking of "all korean women" when I say I don't KNOW any korean women dating white guys.
i am just speaking of the stereotypes that exist on the other side.
like i said, they're not true for everyone. *shrugs*
i don't think all korean guys who date white girls are studs. but the stereotype exists that they are.
i live in a world of reality as well. you have to remember the ESL community is quite small in korea. i imagine total there are about 23,134 language teacher visas in korea.
http://wiki.galbijim.com/Visa#E-2_Language_Teachers
now i imagine 17,000 are english teachers (rest being french, chinese, japanese, conservative estimate). about probably half are korean americans. so 8,500 white ESL teachers in Korea.
half are male. so 4200 total.
of those, about 50-90 on dave's ESL.
Now, given that most of the contact here is with students or hakwon owners, im not sure how you can say that you know the stereotypes that exist outside of this little community.
like I already said, i don't know a single korean girl in US or Korea dating a white guy. Given the small ness of this community, i fail to see how you can't see that my experience can actually exist. |
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endo
Joined: 14 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul...my home
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 9:35 am Post subject: |
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| just another day wrote: |
| endo wrote: |
And do you know what's most interesting?
You feel all proud about creating the label angry waygook male (awm). You base this on the retarted posts made by some males here who harp on the physical shape of some of the Western females in Korea.
Besides the fact that some of my gyopo friends here say the same thing about Western women (I personally disagree - not my style).
You on the other hand go on to call Korean women who date Western men, ugly, old, or prostitutes.
That's much more harsh than calling a woman fat!
So what does that make you just another day?
It makes you a God damn hypocrite, that's for sure. But there's something more too.... |
you make these connections that I am speaking of "all korean women" when I say I don't KNOW any korean women dating white guys.
i am just speaking of the stereotypes that exist on the other side.
like i said, they're not true for everyone. *shrugs*
i don't think all korean guys who date white girls are studs. but the stereotype exists that they are.
i live in a world of reality as well. you have to remember the ESL community is quite small in korea. i imagine total there are about 23,134 language teacher visas in korea.
http://wiki.galbijim.com/Visa#E-2_Language_Teachers
now i imagine 17,000 are english teachers (rest being french, chinese, japanese, conservative estimate). about probably half are korean americans. so 8,500 white ESL teachers in Korea.
half are male. so 4200 total.
of those, about 50-90 on dave's ESL.
Now, given that most of the contact here is with students or hakwon owners, im not sure how you can say that you know the stereotypes that exist outside of this little community.
like I already said, i don't know a single korean girl in US or Korea dating a white guy. Given the small ness of this community, i fail to see how you can't see that my experience can actually exist. |
Cause this whole thread is about Interracial dating/marriage in KOREA!!! |
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blynch
Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Location: UCLA
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 9:39 am Post subject: |
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| just another day wrote: |
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And do you know what's most interesting?
You feel all proud about creating the label angry waygook male (awm). You base this on the retarted posts made by some males here who harp on the physical shape of some of the Western females in Korea.
Besides the fact that some of my gyopo friends here say the same thing about Western women (I personally disagree - not my style).
You on the other hand go on to call Korean women who date Western men, ugly, old, or prostitutes.
That's much more harsh than calling a woman fat!
So what does that make you just another day?
It makes you a God damn hypocrite, that's for sure. But there's something more too.... |
you make these connections that I am speaking of "all korean women" when I say I don't KNOW any korean women dating white guys.
i am just speaking of the stereotypes that exist on the other side.
like i said, they're not true for everyone. *shrugs*
i don't think all korean guys who date white girls are studs. but the stereotype exists that they are.
i live in a world of reality as well. you have to remember the ESL community is quite small in korea. i imagine total there are about 23,134 language teacher visas in korea.
http://wiki.galbijim.com/Visa#E-2_Language_Teachers
now i imagine 17,000 are english teachers (rest being french, chinese, japanese, conservative estimate). about probably half are korean americans. so 8,500 white ESL teachers in Korea.
half are male. so 4200 total.
of those, about 50-90 on dave's ESL.
Now, given that most of the contact here is with students or hakwon owners, im not sure how you can say that you know the stereotypes that exist outside of this little community.
like I already said, i don't know a single korean girl in US or Korea dating a white guy. Given the small ness of this community, i fail to see how you can't see that my experience can actually exist. |
Cause this whole thread is about Interracial dating/marriage in KOREA!!! |
you are funny man. |
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