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just another day
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In context, stood there means, didn't leave.
Prove they knew their children were talking to strangers on the internet? |
what the heck are u talking about now? prove who knew and did what? WHAT?
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the eye
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 6:41 pm Post subject: Re: American Wives Support Man during Pedophile Prosecution? |
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| just another day wrote: |
or stood by while their children talked with strangers on the internet. |
That. Remember? |
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just another day
Joined: 12 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 6:45 pm Post subject: Re: American Wives Support Man during Pedophile Prosecution? |
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or stood by while their children talked with strangers on the internet. |
That. Remember? |
what?
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Or beaten? |
what about this?
its kind of stupid to assume that korean women just sit there if their husband hits them.
you really think korean women are that helpless? idiot. |
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just another day
Joined: 12 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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| unfortunately, these children ARE helpess to internet predators. |
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kermo
Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 6:47 pm Post subject: Re: American Wives Support Man during Pedophile Prosecution? |
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Open season on predators
Sunday, July 09, 2006
By Torsten Ove, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
The most recent study by David Finkelhor, a Point Breeze native who heads the Crimes Against Children Research Center at the University of New Hampshire, shows that 91 percent of suspects are white men with full-time jobs.
"The people that law enforcement are accessing tend to be your white-collar technical people," says Mr. Finkelhor. "Minorities are not as represented in that group."
Many are married, too, and police have noticed that in most cases, women stand by their husbands throughout a prosecution. |
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06190/704503-84.stm
kind of surprising. I would imagine most women would be pretty disgusted by this. |
These are American statistics, not global ones?
In 2005, 74.7% of Americans were defined as "White." Why would it be surprising that a very high percentage of online sexual predators are white?
I really hope you're not trying to make a point about Westerners vs. Asians using these statistics. |
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the eye
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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its kind of stupid to assume that korean women just sit there if their husband hits them.
you really think korean women are that helpless? idiot. |
Listen dude.
I hope you can follow logic.
You came here with a poorly substantiated study about how american women would stand by their husbands DURING legal proceedings for pedophilia.
I asked you how that is any different than akorean women who stays with their man through repeated beatings. I said that because it happens a lot here.
If you want to be ignorant enough to think that korean women don't generally put up with physical abuse, then youi're the idiot.
The fact that you brought in that crap about women standing by when their children talk to strangers on the internet proves you are an idiot.
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just another day
Joined: 12 Jul 2007
Location: Living with the Alaskan Inuits!!
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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| kermo wrote: |
These are American statistics, not global ones?
In 2005, 74.7% of Americans were defined as "White." Why would it be surprising that a very high percentage of online sexual predators are white?
I really hope you're not trying to make a point about Westerners vs. Asians using these statistics. |
ah finally something worth talking about.
its actually 70%.
online population of whites in the US is also about 70% as well.
normally, for it to be statistically normally distributed and by chance, it should be within 1 standard deviation of 5%. meaning if it was 65-75%, then it would be normal.
But 91% would mean a Standard deviation of 4+. which would mean, for it to be naturally 91% by chance, would mean a 1 in 10,000 chance.
There is something else going on here. Its not random that whites in America are overrepresented like this. There's only a 1 in 10,000 chance these numbers are this high by chance.
a reason for the correlation has not yet been determined. only that it seems to exist.
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Atavistic
Joined: 22 May 2006
Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 6:53 pm Post subject: Re: American Wives Support Man during Pedophile Prosecution? |
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what about this?
its kind of stupid to assume that korean women just sit there if their husband hits them.
you really think korean women are that helpless? idiot. |
Um. JAD. Most abused women, IN ANY COUNTRY OF ANY NATIONALITY who are being abused (physically, or emotionally, or psychologically) DO in fact put up with it for far too long! Once they get caught in abuse, it's very hard to leave--FOR ANY WOMAN.
Heck, even men get be abused, and it's hard for them to leave, too. Same is true in same-sex relationships, lesbian or gay.
PLEASE do not tell me you don't think abuse is a problem in Korea. It's an accepted "family matter" to beat your wife or kids here. There are organizations which help women, indeed, but it is still a problem. Just like it is anywhere. And the kids--well, nobody seems to care if kids are getting beaten.
Your original post was about surprise that women put up with accused pedophile family members. YOU specified "American." We're simply saying that sticking with men who are screwed up (pedophiles, abusers, etc) is NOT just an "American" thing.
Also, LOTS of kids talk to strangers on the internet that are not pedophiles. I chatted with other people my age since I first got on the internet at 15 and my parents knew it. We were one of the first families to have Net in the neighboorhood. Had I only been allowed to talk to real life friends, it would have been very lonley.
Furthermore, it's a bit harder to know if your kid is talking to a predator on the internet than to know if YOU or your children are being abused.
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just another day
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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| ^ seriously. korean women don't put up with it. do u know korea has one of the highest rates of divorce in the world? what makes you think a korean woman just sits there and puts up with it? or puts up with ANYTHING? |
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the eye
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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| kermo wrote: |
These are American statistics, not global ones?
In 2005, 74.7% of Americans were defined as "White." Why would it be surprising that a very high percentage of online sexual predators are white?
I really hope you're not trying to make a point about Westerners vs. Asians using these statistics. |
ah finally something worth talking about.
its actually 70%.
online population of whites in the US is also about 70% as well.
normally, for it to be statistically normally distributed and by chance, it should be within 1 standard deviation of 5%. meaning if it was 65-75%, then it would be normal.
But 91% would mean a Standard deviation of 4+. which would mean, for it to be naturally 91% by chance, would mean a 1 in 10,000 chance.
There is something else going on here. Its not random that whites in America are overrepresented like this. There's only a 1 in 10,000 chance these numbers are this high by chance.
a reason for the correlation has not yet been determined. only that it seems to exist. |
Haha! There's no over representation! Do you know how to read stats? |
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the eye
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| ^ seriously. korean women don't put up with it. do u know korea has one of the highest rates of divorce in the world? what makes you think a korean woman just sits there and puts up with it? or puts up with ANYTHING? |
I see and hear it at least once a month. |
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Atavistic
Joined: 22 May 2006
Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.
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| ^ seriously. korean women don't put up with it. do u know korea has one of the highest rates of divorce in the world? what makes you think a korean woman just sits there and puts up with it? or puts up with ANYTHING? |
Korea's rate and America's rate are about the same.
What makes me think women put up with it? Cause they do. Just like abused Western women. If you think otherwise, well, I can't help it. You're just wrong. |
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just another day
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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^ yep. the 91% is 4 SD away from the mean of 70%
that high number cannot be explained by randomness (woops i said correlation) |
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just another day
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| Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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| ^ seriously. korean women don't put up with it. do u know korea has one of the highest rates of divorce in the world? what makes you think a korean woman just sits there and puts up with it? or puts up with ANYTHING? |
Korea's rate and America's rate are about the same.
What makes me think women put up with it? Cause they do. Just like abused Western women. If you think otherwise, well, I can't help it. You're just wrong. |
seriously, u don't know korean women. they don't put up with that kind of crap. |
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the eye
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I'm afraid any further explanation of your flawed statistical analysis would be quite lost on you so i'm not even going to bother.
Hopefully someone else has the stamina to get through your thick skull.
And, Korean women don't put up with it? hahaha!
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