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15th August 1945
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Tjames426



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

as for supporting japanese efforts keep in mind that the US agreed to japanese imperialism in Korea, and to the disappearance of korea as a soveriegn state, as long as the japanese didn't impinge on US colonial interests. The US was a friend of our enemy the Japanese until the US got its own arse bitten.

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You are wrong.

Korea was not a sovereign state. It was controlled by the Qing dynasty. Before the Japanese came, Korea was a slave state to the Chinese Qing Empire. But then again, you probably didn't know the Chinese had a large army in Korea at the time too. The Chinese were in control but had been weakened.

Then, Japan and China fought over control of the Korean Peninsula. The Chinese army lost and they left Korea. You need to read the documents between the Japanese and Chinese that ended the war. It was not a war between Korea and Japan. It was a war between China and Japan over the Korean Peninsula.

How do you think Japan got control over Formosa - Taiwan?

As concerning the USA, Korea was not in their concern of influence. North East Asia was was being divided among the Chinese, Japanese, and Russians. The Americans were not being "anti-Korean". They simply had no interest in the area.

Your analogy is like saying the US was "anti-Chinese" until 1997 when the British left Hong Kong. Shocked
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I guess you're lucky that changed in 1945 eh???
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jaderedux2



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
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How long will V-J day be important? How long should we remember it?


Koreans should remember it for a long time. It marks the day Korea was liberated by the Allies from Japanese rule and set on the way to become the rich and influential country it is today.


They are celebrating! They are holding anti-American demos at Yongsan tomorrow. Love that logic!

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jajdude



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lastat06513 wrote:


You know, it will take another world war before the world finally realizes the horror of war


If we don't know that already we never will. There really is very little peace in this world. The urge for peace is violent in itself.
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princess



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shantaram wrote:
15 August is also the day that Syngman Rhee declared the ROK, the following year in 1946.

(Did I just state the obvious?)
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peppermint



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've heard of VJ day, and knew it was connected to WWII but Canadians don't celebrate it. We didn't fight against Japan during that war, why would we celebrate victory over them?
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lastat06513



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well....
If you look at it from the American standpoint, 12/7/41 IS the American day of infamy....

But when you look at it from the international standpoint of when the first use of atomic weapons, thus ushering in the beginning of unconventional warfare, 8/15/45 is also a day of infamy for Japan as it was the day a mighty Asian military Giant was systematically humbled by a non-Asian superpower, the first time in Post-Meiji, Industrial-Era Japanese history.

I think people have to look at things in terms of "context" instead of only verbal quotes. Wink
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