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fromtheuk



Joined: 31 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 3:44 pm    Post subject: Public school pay Reply with quote

I thought public school meant pay on time. In July, I got paid 4 days later than the date I was told I would get paid.

I got paid in July I believe only because I approached the admin center in the absence of my co-teacher.

I haven't been paid for August yet, and today my co-teacher will raise this with the admin center, because I told my co-teacher about this yesterday and today.

What pathetic incompetence! I will check using my bank book at an ATM, to see if my overtime July payments were paid, my co-teacher advised that.

I didn't know you could use bank books at ATM's to check what's paid into your account, until recently.

Any advice, if there are similar future problems?!!!
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Gamecock



Joined: 26 Nov 2003

PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Become friendly with the school accontant and remind them a couple days before payday. It's a pain, but better than being paid late and the build-up of frustration that goes along with it.

The same thing happened to me when I started at my elementary school. My pay was regularly a day or two late unless I reminded the accountant in our admin office. I was the first foreign teacher they ever had and the problem was that my payday is the 25th of each month, while ALL the other school teachers get paid on the 17th. It's just a matter of me being off her radar...

It is incompetent, but my guess is it isn't malicious. Reminding them with a smile beforehand will do wonders compared to anger after they've made the mistake, because you're getting what you want and not causing them to lose face...you gotta play their game...haha.
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wanderingsalsero



Joined: 23 Dec 2006
Location: Houston, TX.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 11:20 pm    Post subject: getting paid in public schools Reply with quote

I work at a public high school in Namyangju. I get paid a bit later in the month than the Korean teachers and I've gotten paid 3 time exactly when it was expected. they send it directly to my (local) bank account. Works fine for me.
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never had a problem with getting paid. The finance staff in my school are quite on top of all the issues related to pay for everyone in the school. How do they manage to do that? It's quite simple: they follow the manual the Metropolitan Office of Education provided them and which governs their job.
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wanderingsalsero



Joined: 23 Dec 2006
Location: Houston, TX.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 12:22 am    Post subject: Centralcali.... Reply with quote

I didn't mean to say that I got paid late. I just have a different 'payday' than the rest of the teachers. It didn't make any difference to me.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 12:28 am    Post subject: Re: Centralcali.... Reply with quote

wanderingsalsero wrote:
I didn't mean to say that I got paid late. I just have a different 'payday' than the rest of the teachers. It didn't make any difference to me.


I work in a public school.

My base salary is always paid on time and as expected.

My supplemental pay is paid on a different schedule but again is paid as expected and without surprises.

To the OP. Your pay dates are CLEARLY defined in your contract.
If they are late once, complain quietly but firmly.

IF it continues, then refuse to attend class until the matter is fixed. There is NO excuse for it other than laziness or incompetence from the office staff and NO justification for any delay.

You would also be well to file a complaint with the GPOE if the matter is repeated.
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you ever been paid late in Korea?
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=18732

Have you been paid late in Korea?
Never - I must be lucky! 32% [ 48 ]
Once or twice - no big deal, minor annoyance... 21% [ 31 ]
Several times - hate it! 20% [ 30 ]
Several times - but I understand the culture, doesn't bother me. 4% [ 7 ]
Many times - sigh... 16% [ 24 ]
WTF! I've never been paid on time! ARGH!!!!!!!! 4% [ 7 ]
Total Votes : 147

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Mosley wrote:
The first public school job I had I got paid late 4 times over a 2 year period. Given that I was a civil servant(albeit a temporary one) I was not impressed. One KTE gave me the ole "it's the Korean way" routine. I asked him how long he'd been a teacher. He said 10 yrs. Then I asked him how many times he'd been paid late. Him:"never." Korean way, my butt....

http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=18732
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fromtheuk



Joined: 31 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I want to be fair and not a Korean-basher for the sake of it.

My co-teacher spoke with the admin center, they said they had forgot to pay me, because they have a new member of staff there.

They apologized and said I'd get the pay on Monday.

I feel because I am the only native teacher at the school, I kind of escape their notice in some way, anyway, they shouldn't make the same mistakes again.

Ttompatz - I respect your opinions on Korea, because you seem to have knowledge and experience. I will wait and see what happens with September's pay.

I would feel reluctant to say I won't attend class unless I am paid right on time, but if this turns out to be a frequent headache, I may be forced to do that, really as a last resort.
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xCustomx



Joined: 06 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fromtheuk wrote:

I feel because I am the only native teacher at the school, I kind of escape their notice in some way, anyway, they shouldn't make the same mistakes again.



That's what I don't undertand about public schools sometimes, that they "forget because you're the foreigner." Logically, wouldn't they remember you because you're the only foreigner? I would think being the only foreigner would make you stand out. Kind of like at lunch time when I get 10 teachers asking me to eat lunch with them or asking if I already ate, or how the lunch was
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Julius



Joined: 27 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 6:34 am    Post subject: Re: Public school pay Reply with quote

fromtheuk wrote:
I thought public school meant pay on time. In July, I got paid 4 days later than the date I was told I would get paid.!!


Thats nuffink mate... U should have been here 3 years ago when hogwons habitually paid people weeks or months late, or not at all!!!

The problems newbies complain about nowadays just don't bear comparison to what it was like before- "I have to sit around doing nothing and getting paid for it, I'm so bored"- boo hoo!

I actually quit a place, had to walk out because they my pay was 12 days late.

People used to get paid 1.8M for having pencils thrown at them all day for pity's sake
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Optimus Prime



Joined: 05 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I started an Afterschool program July 18th. Gave me 1 million won on Aug. 1st. Nothing for August though they said the pay period is Aug 1-31. They want to hold back my pay for 17 days, and presumably wire me the final paycheck after I have left Korea 17 days prior. Yeah, right, huh?
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yingwenlaoshi



Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!

PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Money can be transferred to your account 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

I'd be demanding that they pay me NOW. Call whoever they must, but pay me NOW.

That's the way I am. Public school or not. Upset someone or not. Look like a monster in their eyes or not. The real monster is not paying me on time. Act like a monster and you get a monster.
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nicholas_chiasson



Joined: 14 Jun 2007
Location: Samcheok

PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

-I just noticed your user name...why are so many sinologists in korea?
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yingwenlaoshi



Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!

PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nicholas_chiasson wrote:
-I just noticed your user name...why are so many sinologists in korea?


Is that what I am? Do you think I'm a sinologist for some reason? Weird.
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cbclark4



Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan

PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You couls always take a few hostages until you get paid.
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