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[Manner of Speaking]

The Globe and Mail reported that the RCMP now know it was three Surete du Quebec officers who were disguised as protesters, and carrying rocks. It isn't the first time the Surete has done something like this...back in the 80s, the Oka crisis escalated to an armed confrontation when the Surete attacked an Indian protest in the town of Oka. The Indians were protesting the sale or expropriation of some land for a golf course. The Indians were squatting on a piece of land as part of the protest, and had been doing so peacefully, for months. Then suddenly the Surete attacked - there is no other way to describe it - and the Indians had the nerve to fight back.

Three people died, for the sake of a golf course.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oka_crisis

Those of you who are old enough to remember, may remember those pictures of the last of the Oka squatters fleeing the site...with Quebecois throwing rocks at fleeing women and children.

Obviously, the three police officers, and whomever approved their actions, at the Montebello Summit should be investigated and brought to justice. They violated the rights of all Canadians to peaceful assembly and peaceful freedom of speech. Not to mention violating the Riot Act. If I was one of the protesters, I would sue the three police officers for violating my rights under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

[riverboy]

[Mosley]

LMAO! endo: "This isn't a left vs right thing."

Imagine that if a survey had been taken at the demonstration with this question asked: "If you had to place yourself on the political spectrum where would you be?'' You'd have a better chance of finding a Korean admitting to hating kimchee than you would have of a protester answering "the right." Hell, you'd be hard pressed to find one saying "the center." So I'll throw down the gauntlet: for all the posters here that are hot & bothered about the police "brutality" at this event, where would you place yourselves on the spectrum?

More laughter! MOS evoking Oka! Yeah, now THAT was a peaceful protest! The source MOS quoted calls the protesters the Mohawk WARRIORS. Why? Could it have something to do with the fact that the protesters were heavily armed? The source MOS quoted says, yes, 3 people died. It also says at least 2 of the dead were non-native. Two of deaths were indirectly related to the protest. The directly-related death claimed as its victim a white cop. Yep, quite the show of deadly force by the authorities. In fact, the "protest" was not a spontaneous outburst by peaceful noble savages sitting around in teepees. It was planned and it was POLITICAL. Why alse would a Univ. of Saskatchewan student be protesting at a reserve in Quebec(the last tidbit is from YOUR source, MOS)?

As for the locals throwing rocks at "women & children": Those on the receiving end were ALL in automobiles. The locals weren't justified in doing what they did but their frustration and anger was understandable: for many months they'd been forced to make very long detours around the barricades to get to work, school, etc.

I'm reminded of a leftist who made this claim about Oka: " Tanks were used against native people!" I pointed out to said comrade that there were no tanks in Canada[in 1990...that's when Oka occured, not in the 1980s] save for ones on the prairies that belonged to the Brits and West Germans. What WAS moved into position was an armoured personal carrier equipped to lob tear gas into the barricades.

But why let the facts get in the way of propagandistic hyperbole?

[endo]

[Mosley]

I'm inclined to believe that if the FACTS were presented to the Canadian public the majority would support the police.

And endo...you ignored my challenge. So...once again: If you HAD to place yourself on the political spectrum, where would you be?

[endo]

[Mosley]

So, you have to be "educated" to be "open to a wide variety of views"?!

Strange, because some of the most ideologically straight-jacked folk(usually on the left) I've ever met had oodles of formal educational credentials!

[endo]

^ No I'm just educated enought to not limit my ideology to one specific end of the spectrum.


You see it's either people who are too stupid or too smart that fall into the firm position of left and right.

Noam Chomsky and Pat Buchanen on the left and right respectively in terms of intelligent people.

My cousin Jeff and George Bush on the right.


I play the middle dude. Best of both worlds.

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