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Pulled over for driving 49.5cc scooter without DL license
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sojourner1



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug

PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:07 pm    Post subject: Pulled over for driving 49.5cc scooter without DL license Reply with quote

Is it really illegal to drive a 49.5 CC scooter here without a drivers license? I read and we all read that you don't need a DL to drive a small scooter.

A friend was pulled over a few days ago by K police, taken to the cop shop for a couple hours, questioned, and threatened with a 3 million Won fine, but let go since he had a clean record and was respectful. The police are keeping his scooter until he shows that he has a drivers license and he will probably have to pay a fine or fee to get the bike back. Now a few other teachers here are scared about this and keeping their scooters parked. This is really strange to us.

What's the deal? Anyone else know of this happening or it being illegal to drive a 49.5 cc scooter?
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dogshed



Joined: 28 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check out the third post by the kingofdisco:
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=89083&highlight=motorcycle+license

It seems your friend was confusing the license for the vehicle, which we call tags in the US, with the license for the driver.
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GoldMember



Joined: 24 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whenever Koreans say you can't do this or that, or you are breaking the law, the best thing to do is get them to show you the relevant law/regulation.
Most of the time they won't want to to this as the relevent law/regualtion does not in fact exist.
If they can't show you the law, call their bluff.
Get a copy of the regulation and then find someone to translate it for you.
Also call your embassy!
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ChopChaeJoe



Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why would anyone think they don't ned a license to drive a motor vehicle??
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dogshed



Joined: 28 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChopChaeJoe wrote:
Why would anyone think they don't ned a license to drive a motor vehicle??


In many states in the US anything under 50cc is classed as a moped and does not require a driver's license. It's not an unreasonable assumption.

However, we must be careful about assumptions.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back in the days when I was riding a scooter, I was told that you need a (car) driver's license for a scooter, but a motorcycle license for....well, motorcycles.

Maybe that is the discrepancy.
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got pulled over and was almost busted for the same thing the other day. My wife told the cops we just bought the scooter, we were on our way home from the store, and we didn't have a licence yet. They let us off.
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sojourner1



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug

PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, I would venture it is actually illegal though scooters and motor cycles were typically always ignored here while they broke every traffic law in the books. Scooters and motorcycles are usually ignored and viewed the same as pedestrian traffic as they often drive like they are pedestrians such as waiting for pedestrian walk lights to cross the street with all the walkers.

This law had not been enforced much until now which gave many of us the idea that it is legal to drive a 49.5 cc scooter without a DL just like at home. It's very possible the law is enforced more so on foreigners. This might have to do with when the police reported about 2 months ago in an English newspaper they would be enforcing the law on motorcyclist using sidewalks and crosswalks. It appears that was the warning though it didn't mention anything about driving a scooter without a license.
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SeoulFinn



Joined: 27 Feb 2006
Location: 1h from Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's a good thing that the cops are stopping people on scoots and bikes. I just hope that they'd stop and fine every mofo out there, Korean and foreign alike, who's not wearing a helmet. That's just plain stupid. While at it, fine everyone who's not using their seatbelts as well. No mercy!

I've seen a ton of 125+ cc bikes, some of them even bigger than 400 cc, driving without license plates in front of a cop car. What's with that? It shouldn't be that difficult to spot a bike you actually need to have a license and plate to operate.

Here's a suggestion. Police department should mobilize young men who are doing their military service in the police force (will need at least 10 000 of them), give all of them couple sturdy chain locks and send them on the streets and parking lots to lock down every 125+ cc bike without a plate. Even better, give them trucks and take those bikes and scooters out of the streets completely. Melt them for iron or something. Very Happy
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You got pulled over for that and yet the cops say nothing about folks driving the things on the crowded sidewalks. Truly amazing.
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I went through a red light.
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diver



Joined: 16 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was always under the impression that for under 50cc you didn't need a license.
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jaganath69



Joined: 17 Jul 2003

PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SeoulFinn wrote:
I think it's a good thing that the cops are stopping people on scoots and bikes.


Where is this happy crappy fantasy land in which this rigid system of vehicle inspection is happening? The other day near my university I witnessed a girl on a moped going the wrong way down the main road and returning up the footpath whilst a pair of zit-faced coppers watched on. Meanwhile, a plethora of delivery tw@ts plied their trade on the footpath behind said enforcers of the 'law' whilst they no doubt discussed Dong Ban Shin Gi and the proper shade of pink shirt to mince around in with one's chingu.
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uberscheisse



Joined: 02 Dec 2003
Location: japan is better than korea.

PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SeoulFinn wrote:
I think it's a good thing that the cops are stopping people on scoots and bikes. I just hope that they'd stop and fine every mofo out there, Korean and foreign alike, who's not wearing a helmet. That's just plain stupid. While at it, fine everyone who's not using their seatbelts as well. No mercy!

I've seen a ton of 125+ cc bikes, some of them even bigger than 400 cc, driving without license plates in front of a cop car. What's with that? It shouldn't be that difficult to spot a bike you actually need to have a license and plate to operate.

Here's a suggestion. Police department should mobilize young men who are doing their military service in the police force (will need at least 10 000 of them), give all of them couple sturdy chain locks and send them on the streets and parking lots to lock down every 125+ cc bike without a plate. Even better, give them trucks and take those bikes and scooters out of the streets completely. Melt them for iron or something. Very Happy


when they start stopping the 16 year old fruits who ride stolen bikes in big douche-gangs, i'll think your suggestions are a cool idea.

until then, i'll read your post and think "wow, another guy who thinks korean cops stand up a lot."
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SeoulFinn



Joined: 27 Feb 2006
Location: 1h from Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uberscheisse, I don't actually rank the the local police force that high. You could almost say that I was day dreaming that the local cops would actually do their jobs and enforce the laws. After all, isn't that what they are paid to do?

For someone coming from as law abiding country as Finland is (some may say even too law abiding), the local Korean law enforcement and the stories related to it leave me speechless. Ever heard of rule of law? What about efficient, reliable and impartial law enforcement? *sigh* Corruption, bribes, connections... lock them all up and throw away the key.

Vote me for Police Commissioner!
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