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yingwenlaoshi



Joined: 12 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jizzo T. Clown wrote:
Quitting smoking was damn tough. I still haven't quit drinking, though--I think they put heroin and coke in alcohol.


It's amazing how you can train your mind.

"This beer? Yah! It's a joint!"
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Jizzo T. Clown



Joined: 27 Mar 2006
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yingwenlaoshi wrote:

"This beer? Yah! It's a joint!"


Oh yeah, quitting weed was pretty tough, too--but two years in Asia helped tremendously. That and the fact that I can't think worth a shit for a full day after I toke up--teaching isn't a good profession for stoners. I miss my fast food gigs. Sad
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sojourner1



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yingwenlaoshi wrote:
Yeah, cold turkey is the way to go. I need to quit myself. It's bad for the heart.

I smoke 2 packs a day. At least.


Yes, that heart business is a real reality as my dad and both grandpas died of heart attack in their 50's and they all smoked 2 to 4 packs a day. This is my reason for quitting, it's not about the money costs though that is a bonus. Also, I don't have the stress of dealing with small store keepers and the public image of being a foolish loser. People really do look at you .

What tricks people is they feel good when smoking and while doing anything on their feet such as walking and working, but when sitting down, resting, or sleeping; their hearts screw up showing signs of the damage done. It could be very mild pain in the left chest or irregular beat or both. If you believe this is happening to you, then you are probably in early stage of heart disease, but still have time help yourself through quitting smoking and losing weight. I realize much of heart disease is hereditary, but smoking amplifies the risks to the point your guaranteed to have heart disease before you're 40 if it runs in your family genes, though you may not know that early. I think I do know. My dad has his first heart attack when he was 38 and died at the young age of 56, but he smoked 2 packs of menthols since he was a teen, sat in a chair his whole life, and got fat due to being disabled on account of having a brain tumor when he was 14. He was on disability all his life. One grandpa was a workaholic engineer for McDonnell Douglas aircraft who ran an air conditioner business on the side and the other drove big rigs 80 to 100 hours a week, both who smoked 2 to 4 packs a day. I didn't have the privilege of knowing or remember both of my grandpas and my dad was gone by the time I hit 26 years old. My brother who is only 36 is already on SSI disability for heart disease, obesity, high blood pressure and slipped back bone disk. He still chain smokes several packs a day and just says he knows he going to die young already as it is. He quit marijuana and meth 5 years ago, but won't quit ciggies, reduce food intake, and lose weight. Like his dad, he just sits in his chair with his wife on her parents property. He did meth for 10 solid years, before meeting his wife, so he is aged much more than he should be at the age of 36 as there is a huge difference between me and him with me being only a year younger. He looks 20 years older than me and weighs over 100 pounds more than me. I anticipate he only has 5 years left and he is much worse off than our dad was; it's very sad. I am thankful I didn't do meth or smoke 2 or more packs of ciggies a day. Now, I just have to be careful to not get too fat or fall into dire straights.

Sleep disorder is another biggie too, which I know I have, especially with this hagwon gig not going well, being far from home in place I don't like, and worrying my way through life over money...Money, career, and economics are killing many of us due to the anxieties and sleep disorders it causes, but the only thing from this angle to do is to seek the best work possible and manage finances as best we can. There is no escape from financial anxiety that takes a toll on the heart, unless you get a windfall and just pursue hobbies, relax, travel, and focus on physical fitness health while you're having a great time with all that newfound free time. Too bad I can't realistically see this coming, though it crosses me mind often.
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yingwenlaoshi



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 3:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jizzo T. Clown wrote:
yingwenlaoshi wrote:

"This beer? Yah! It's a joint!"


Oh yeah, quitting weed was pretty tough, too--but two years in Asia helped tremendously. That and the fact that I can't think worth a shit for a full day after I toke up--teaching isn't a good profession for stoners. I miss my fast food gigs. Sad


Quitting weed is a gradual thing. The first time you quit is hard. The second time it's a bit easier. Third it's not so bad. After that it's a piece of cake.

Smoking, on the other hand, is a whole different game.
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JMO



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I quit smoking everything when I turned 21. Seems early but I was smoking since I was 14 and a pack and a half-2 packs a day since I was 15/16. I also was a pretty heavy hash smoker in Uni but quit that also.

I got hypnotized when I quit but it was still tough. I came to korea shortly after that so when I go home guys at the bar still think I smoke and people are still surprised. When I drank I basically chain smoked. When I was on pills I had started a new one before the old one was finished. I havn't done them since, so I guess thats the final frontier to see if I really am a non smoker.
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Fresh Prince



Joined: 05 Dec 2006
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For me, a large part of smoking for me was the ever-present financial issues and the other stressors. Smoking ended up as a way to deal with it all. Stress doesn't really go away so waiting for a stress free period to quit smoking typically doesn't work. I remember putting off the challenge many times. There was always a better time to start the quiting process, sometime in the future but somehow when that time came, it was never the ideal situation.

Luckily, after about a week the cravings subside enough where they aren't an ever-present thought. After two weeks, it's much easier to find something else to do instead; working out, studying Korean, etc. The first week is the hardest though as smoking seems to be the only thing people think about during that time.
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Thunndarr



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I ended up quitting in stages. It was kinda hard at first, but it got easier. I slipped up occasionally, but slipping up doesn't set you back to square one. I eventually had fewer and fewer, then turned into a social (drinking) smoker, and then finally stopped altogether. It's not impossible as long as you don't regard a relapse as being complete failure.
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demaratus



Joined: 13 Apr 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quitting smoking is about the hardest thing you can do. But it is also very rewarding. Screw the nicorette gum, try chewing regular sugarfree gum when you want a smoke. It helped me quit. If you wanna try medication, Zyban apperently also has a fairly high success rate, it also apperently make women using it quite horny. Added benefit!
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're in or near Seoul, you can go to the International Clinic in Itaeweon and consult with the doctor there regarding a smoking cessation program tailored for you.

If that's too far out of the way for you, find a clinic or hospital with an English-speaking doctor (unless you're fluent enough in Korean) and consult with a doctor there regarding a smoking cessation program.

My suggestion to you, in addition to whatever the doctor tells you, is to avoid "hang outs" such as bars while you're attempting to quit. For one thing, it's a smoke pit. For another, you'll be lowering your inhibitions against smoking the more you drink.

The issue of cessation drugs vs. cold turkey is a personal one. It's different for each person. That's one very good reason you should consult with a doctor about a medical issue. And addictions are medical issues.
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DaeguKid



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah...this is a funny one...im two days in and doing alright. I got some Zanex to take the edge off but have not used it yet. I figure it will be cracked open if I am having trouble sleeping. Actually that is a lie, I popped a tab an hour ago! Very Happy

A good buddy of mine who absolutely hates smoking has been super cool about it...he knows its hard, and with that in mind it helps me get through the craves and itches....

I hate smelling like butts. Enough said. To the OP, someone else here mentioned it, its one day at a time. Simple as that. When you go to bed at night and you dont smoke, you made it through that day. Another buddy who is a recovering alcoholic said that to me. You make it through the day without a drink, you won that day. Deal with tomorrow when you wake up....
Good luck, we can do it!
DK
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sojourner1



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do you get some zanex here? That would rock in helping me relax and sleep. I asked for sleeping aid last week and they gave me only 3 pills prescription for 3,000 Won and they were not good like Lunesta or Ambien. The doctor had to call the pharmacy next door to explain for several minutes to get me a prescription. What ultra strict drug control here outside of ciggies and booze. Going to Korea is a drug starvation diet, yet it's very polluted and stressful here, at least in my experience. Health care is a ridiculous rip off here, because you can't hardly get anything and when you do, it's too small of a quantity worth your lunch break and going back to work hungry. I am paying $50 a month of my income for almost nothing since they don't produce adequate prescriptions while employers won't hardly let you off the hook should you need to visit a doctor.

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ChopChaeJoe



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quitting smoking isn't hard at all. I've done it dozens of times.
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DaeguKid



Joined: 09 Dec 2006
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sojourner1 wrote:
How do you get some zanex here? That would rock in helping me relax and sleep. I asked for sleeping aid last week and they gave me only 3 pills prescription for 3,000 Won and they were not good like Lunesta or Ambien. The doctor had to call the pharmacy next door to explain for several minutes to get me a prescription. What ultra strict drug control here outside of ciggies and booze. Going to Korea is a drug starvation diet, yet it's very polluted and stressful here, at least in my experience. Health care is a ridiculous rip off here, because you can't hardly get anything and when you do, it's too small of a quantity worth your lunch break and going back to work hungry. I am paying $50 a month of my income for almost nothing since they don't produce adequate prescriptions while employers won't hardly let you off the hook should you need to visit a doctor.


Scored it in Thailand...but tell ya what, just ask the doctor. I have gone into doctors before and pretty much demanded a prescription. Tell him your having trouble sleeping and in your history Zanex has done the trick. I am feeling great right now...good luck! Fruck the butts my friend!
DK
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yingwenlaoshi



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you guys got any?
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browneyedgirl



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Anyone quitting smoking? Reply with quote

sojourner1 wrote:
I quit smoking 2 weeks ago, but chewing about 15 pieces of 2 mg nicotine gum a day which costs double that of cigarettes. I plan to ween off the gum soon as well. There is a good stop smoking project in progress @ http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?showforum=65
Any stop smoking support projects going on in Korea right now?

If anyone else is on the quest to stop being exploited by tobacco companies, please let us all know your story. I feel like a lone ranger with doing this on my own by myself, but have the strength to do it this time for some odd reason. Maybe a pain in the chest or an irregular heartbeat scared me 2 weeks ago or I have a new anxiety building in me. I know I am very anxious to get out of here and move on with life.

I can drink beer and go to the bar and still not smoke despite everyone else toking up a storm, though I don't stay long since the bar is boring, full of smoking men, and expensive. I am committed to quit smoking for good this time since I am afraid for my health, finances, and social being such as not getting a good job when I go home over stinking in the interview or potential new friends passing you up over cigarette odors. I am very sure I lost out on many good things in life due to smoking and it's time to take a stand and gain more control of my life and live as I should.

I notice the nicotine gum began to taste very salty 4 days after quitting smoking and it continues to taste more salty today. I can even taste salt or salinity in beer and everything now. I haven't used any salt in my cooking since I quit smoking and my food tastes even better now. I notice I have a new keen sense of smell too where I can smell everything; people, foods, buildings, cars, my own breath, myself; anything, you name it. It's a new reality for me recently, sometimes pleasant, sometimes rather offending.

Is there sodium or salt in nicotine gum?


I used to smoke and then one day I just realized how lame it was trying to get rid of the smell and I quit cold-turkey. A year after I stopped I'd have cravings out of the blue, but those are pretty much gone now.

You can do it, but most people have to have a moment that makes it final. I remember a guy saying his moment was when he didn't have any smokes and he saw one on the ground and tried lighting it and a guy driving by told him how gross he was for putting that dirty cigarette in his mouth. He never smoked again.
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