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Tiger Beer

Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 2:46 am Post subject: Edwards' wife talks of Clinton 'hatred' |
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070831/ap_on_el_pr/elizabeth_edwards_clinton_5;_ylt=Ar_XN_6BOv0yKzRbneXXQKvkbeRF
Edwards' wife talks of Clinton 'hatred'
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WASHINGTON - Elizabeth Edwards, wife of Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards, says "hatred" of his rival Hillary Rodham Clinton would motivate Republicans to vote against her in the general election.
"I want to be perfectly clear: I do not think the hatred against Hillary Clinton is justified," Elizabeth Edwards said in an interview with Time magazine out this week. "I don't know where it comes from. I don't begin to understand it. But you can't pretend it doesn't exist, and it will energize the Republican base. Their nominee won't energize them, Bush won't, but Hillary as the nominee will. It's hard for John to talk about, but it's the reality." |
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Clinton is a divisive candidate, with a recent Gallup Poll showing her unfavorables at 48 percent and her favorable rating at 47 percent. |
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ddeubel

Joined: 20 Jul 2005
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Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 6:50 am Post subject: |
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You know, I really wish she would run....she'd toss Hilary around the political ring, like a sack of beans. Really , truly. A very special woman.
DD |
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sundubuman
Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Location: seoul
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Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 6:59 am Post subject: |
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funny dd, I feel similarly, only different...
I think it's great when a couple is a partnership, when one helps the other achieve...
but when a very powerful woman takes a smart, good-looking, malleable man...
and rides him like a horse...
well that might be okay too in certain circumstances.
But not in the circumstance of the Presidency. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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Mrs. Edwards has a point. The Right has long had a hate on for both Clintons. It was evident in my high school class in '92. It was what Senator Clinton refered to when she made that comment about 'a vast right wing conspiracy'. I don't think anyone really understands where it comes from, but it is real. |
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Gopher

Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah. The poor, victimized left. There are only vast right-wing conspiracies at play in American political affairs...ROFL. Left-wingers have had their fangs bared for W. Bush since his first inauguration.
Where does it come from? In our own time? Watergate. Pay-back politics. Both sides play. And it gets vicious and bloody.
Do not take this to mean that I endorse these pay-back politics, by the way. But I have little time for the Rush Limbaughs and Michael Moores and other axe-grinding, foaming-at-the-mouth, political-operators out there.
My advice to Clinton, then, would be to keep her head up and to keep charging forward -- no matter what any extremist opponent, or even, from within her own party, what an extremely desperate opponent or his wife might say about her in order to steal a few moments of attention in the media. And as far as today goes, Clinton has my vote in her pocket.
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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Mrs. Edwards is trying to provoke an attack from the Clinton campaign. When Clinton went after Obama for his foreign policy remarks, Obama rised slightly in the polls. Edwards is not doing so well right now. He could use the attention. I mean, he's the pro-Labor protectionist candidate who couldn't get the AFL-CIO to back him. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 5:01 am Post subject: |
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I've paid close attention to presidential politics since the election of '64 and yes, there is party rivalry, there is deep disagreement, often there has been deeply personal attacks (think Nixon and Reagan--for and against). Yes there is a phenomenon of pay-back politics over Watergate...but there has been nothing quite like the visceral hatred/loathing of the Clintons, even before they became national figures.
There seems to be something about both of them, separately or together, that arouses something more than the usual reaction of partisan politics. It isn't just Mrs. Edwards and me that think this. There is something beyond the normal going on.
You can bet some 28 year old grad student somewhere is working his fingers to the bone on a dissertation on it right now. |
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Rteacher

Joined: 23 May 2005 Location: Western MA, USA
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 5:18 am Post subject: |
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Obviously, talk radio and the Internet has been effectively used by rabble-rousers.
The medium is the rough massage... |
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keane
Joined: 09 Jul 2007
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 6:37 am Post subject: |
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sundubuman wrote: |
funny dd, I feel similarly, only different...
I think it's great when a couple is a partnership, when one helps the other achieve...
but when a very powerful woman takes a smart, good-looking, malleable man...
and rides him like a horse...
well that might be okay too in certain circumstances.
But not in the circumstance of the Presidency. |
Yeah, that's what happened.
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keane
Joined: 09 Jul 2007
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 6:39 am Post subject: |
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Gopher wrote: |
Yeah. The poor, victimized left. There are only vast right-wing conspiracies at play in American political affairs...ROFL. Left-wingers have had their fangs bared for W. Bush since his first inauguration. |
God knows THAT has proven to be unjustified...
Apologist, know thyself: http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=97726 |
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Tiger Beer

Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 6:46 am Post subject: |
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Rteacher wrote: |
Obviously, talk radio and the Internet has been effectively used by rabble-rousers.
The medium is the rough massage... |
Most talk radio in the United States has become incredibly rightwing biased. Rush Limbaugh inspired an onslaught of them. If you aren't right in one of the major American cities (like NY, LA, SF), you're inundated day and night with vicious hate radio on feminazis, anti-Hiliary, liberals, and on and on.
Hiliary is so cemented into that. That was Kerry's downfall as well - his name was fine, but a liberal from Massachusetts. That was about the worst person the Democrats could put up that election year with their candidancy pool.
Hate Radio...I mean Talk Radio spends countless upon countless airtime hours pounding that state and San Francisco into the ground. |
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