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Language Question: "Kay" vs. "Myong" etc

 
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Omkara



Joined: 18 Feb 2006
Location: USA

PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 10:52 pm    Post subject: Language Question: "Kay" vs. "Myong" etc Reply with quote

There are so many ways to count things. Have you figured out a pattern for why they categorize things as they do? Ex.: "Han Mari" vs. "Han songi"?
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Atavistic



Joined: 22 May 2006
Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You mean the counters? jang=paper, mari=animals, myeong=people? Are you asking WHY they use counters? Or are you asking WHAT the counters are?
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ajgeddes



Joined: 28 Apr 2004
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't we do the exaclt same thing in English?
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PeteJB



Joined: 06 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

개 = Fruits, supermarket things..
명 = People. Exclusively
마리 = Living things, such as animals. Or cooked ones.
병 = Things in bottles (like soju)
장 = Paper, or money (열장 = Ten notes)
송이 = Flowers, Plants?
번 = Can be used with time and things. IE I went there two times (두 번)
분 = Alternative to 명. More polite I guess. 몇 분있어요?
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SPINOZA



Joined: 10 Jun 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And don't forget the all-important 것....equivalent to 'one'? This one, that one?

http://endic.naver.com/endic.nhn?docid=2040510&rd=s
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Hater Depot



Joined: 29 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://wiki.galbijim.com/List_of_counting_words

Not complete by any means but has quite a few.
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normalcyispasse



Joined: 27 Oct 2006
Location: Yeosu until the end of February WOOOOOOOO

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PeteJB wrote:

분 = Alternative to 명. More polite I guess. 몇 분있어요?


Also "minutes" -- good for counting/telling time. "몇 분?" -- "How many minutes?"

To the OP: We have TONS of counters in English, but you don't notice them until you try to learn another language. For example:

"Hand me those three bottles of beer, please."
"They're next to the two sheets of paper, near the four slices of bread and the five cans of Coke."
"I'd like a carton of milk, please, and a tub of yogurt."
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Omkara



Joined: 18 Feb 2006
Location: USA

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool. Thanks all. I've been working with a teacher and I'm beginning to form some concepts.
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