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crazy_arcade
Joined: 05 Nov 2006
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 4:36 am Post subject: Are you ready for the Wednesday Fallout? |
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www.mongdori.com
follow the link. |
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I-am-me

Joined: 21 Feb 2006 Location: Hermit Kingdom
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 4:45 am Post subject: |
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It will be a great show. Divert attention from koreans who have no degrees to foreigners who have fake degrees. I am sure every school will be asking teachers to submit their diplomas for authentication by next week. Mine already did! |
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Paji eh Wong

Joined: 03 Jun 2003
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 4:53 am Post subject: |
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Once again, it is of not consequence.
Ignore it and it will go away. |
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yingwenlaoshi

Joined: 12 Feb 2007 Location: ... location, location!
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 4:56 am Post subject: |
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That's hilarious. Watched the preview and it had all this dramatic music and blurring out of faces.
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoh!! Big, bad English teacher. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 5:12 am Post subject: |
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I think this whole degree/fake degree thing has the potential to work out for the best in the long run. I've seen several comments in the Korean medial about the over-emphasis on a degree and the brilliant new idea of merit.
In a few years, things will shake themselves out and Korea will be a bit more developed in the idea that quality of work is valuable in itself. They will still require a degree (and they should), but the idea of actually expecting someone to do a good job will have taken root. |
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yingwenlaoshi

Joined: 12 Feb 2007 Location: ... location, location!
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 6:00 am Post subject: |
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Wonder if they do shows on hagwon owners and how they cheat teachers and the government/Korean tax payers out of pension, health, and income tax contributions.
That would probably make things better than reporting on fake degrees and some people smoking mary jane. You'd think they'd be more interested in that, maybe.
Koreans fake degrees and smoke weed, too.
Anyway, I say get rid of the whole lot who fake their diplomas, too. I can't understand, however, why someone would want to smoke pot here. What a waste of pot.
Everywhere in the world we have illegal workers and people who smoke pot. It's not news. It's especially not news here. Wouldn't something on the corruptness of the ESL industry and how badly treated the foreigners are be more newsworthy?
I guess they aren't very helpful here. If the situation were reversed, I'd find it more interesting to hear how some of my countrymen were screwing foreigners out of their health insurance, etc. Then again, they wouldn't have a news report with dramatic music in the background. Nor would they have that type of music if they were reporting on foreigners with, oh my god, FAKE DEGREES and SMOKING POT. Maybe the fake degree thing is pretty newsworthy, but I doubt a lot would be getting in with fake degrees back home. |
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Adventurer

Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 6:46 am Post subject: |
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If there was similar reporting in Canada about Korean bad behaviour, I bet we hear cries of racism even though we would be talking about the facts. At least, in Canada, the media would try to show both sides of the story. When it comes to foreigners in Korea, the Korean media doesn't care. And this idea that netizens believed some crazy story about an American soldier breaking into some Korean's house is really ludicrous.
This is not Iraq, this is Korea. The Korean authorities wouldn't white wash what American soldiers are doing in their country. |
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jaganath69

Joined: 17 Jul 2003
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 8:20 am Post subject: |
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That's because the only way the Korean media is interested in showing us is as pliant little monkeys donning hanboks or scoffing kimchi and giving the Fwee sign, or some other such thing that makes Joe Kim feel superior. Even shows like 'Chat with the beauties' comes under the aegis of light entertainment and any serious debate is dumbed down with norae-banging and 'how can you eat spicy food' type questions. |
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yingwenlaoshi

Joined: 12 Feb 2007 Location: ... location, location!
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 8:32 am Post subject: |
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I don't even have my TV plugged in, and my cable bill is now 33,520 Won and counting. Haven't bothered paying it. Guess I should some day.
Don't bother watching it. I wouldn't understand it all anyway unless a Korean was explaining everything to me. Don't think I'll schedule Wednesday night to have my friend translate it for me.
Or will I? Hmm. |
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GoldMember
Joined: 24 Oct 2006
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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How many people on this board have Korean "friends"?
When these friends of yours see such racist crap on the media, how many bother to do something simple as protest the racist garbage by writing a letter (email) to the media or making a phone call.
Go on ask them.
A real friend stands up for his/her friends.
Do your Korean friends stand up for you? Is your Korean friend at the very least indignant about such racism, or does your Korean friend go quiet, or start making excuses, oh you have to understand, 5000 years blah blah blah
Or when faced with a situation when it's you versus the Uri Nara, all of a sudden your Korean friend is nowhere to be seen.
If the person won't stand up for you, then that person is not a friend.
How many Korean friends do you have now? |
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komerican

Joined: 17 Dec 2006
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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People understandably may feel that these reports are unfair but I have to shrug since asians are also treated like this and worse by western media. For example, there are billions of asians but I've rarely, if ever, saw on TV in the States a show depicting a happy asian father/child relationship or happy asian families with a strong father figure. There are plenty of shows of asian women wanting western men though.
Point this out to non-asians and their reaction is that the PC culture is strangling america or that the media doesn't matter, or no reaction at all. We know, however, that when the shoe is on the other foot, the reaction is a bit more negative and visceral. |
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jaganath69

Joined: 17 Jul 2003
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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komerican wrote: |
People understandably may feel that these reports are unfair but I have to shrug since asians are also treated like this and worse by western media. For example, there are billions of asians but I've rarely, if ever, saw on TV in the States a show depicting a happy asian father/child relationship or happy asian families with a strong father figure. There are plenty of shows of asian women wanting western men though.
Point this out to non-asians and their reaction is that the PC culture is strangling america or that the media doesn't matter, or no reaction at all. We know, however, that when the shoe is on the other foot, the reaction is a bit more negative and visceral. |
It's a bit of a jump from no positive father-figures to drug-addled, fake-degree-wielding, wants-to-rape-your-children monsters that these shows portray us as. |
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reactionary
Joined: 22 Oct 2006 Location: korreia
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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yeah, i'd hardly say that lack of airtime is as serious a problem as an openly inflammatory TV program. anyway, asians are by far a much smaller percentage of the US population than blacks or latinos, and i'd say they're slowly appearing more on television (ridiculous depictions like Hiro from "Heroes" aside).
by your same token, i could say korean TV doesn't portray mixed race couples unless it's korean male + southeast asian female. and, actually, when was the last time you saw a korean movie/tv show with a non-korean lead? how about whiteys participating in competitive sports with koreans?  |
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Yu_Bum_suk

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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GoldMember wrote: |
How many people on this board have Korean "friends"?
When these friends of yours see such racist crap on the media, how many bother to do something simple as protest the racist garbage by writing a letter (email) to the media or making a phone call.
Go on ask them.
A real friend stands up for his/her friends.
Do your Korean friends stand up for you? Is your Korean friend at the very least indignant about such racism, or does your Korean friend go quiet, or start making excuses, oh you have to understand, 5000 years blah blah blah
Or when faced with a situation when it's you versus the Uri Nara, all of a sudden your Korean friend is nowhere to be seen.
If the person won't stand up for you, then that person is not a friend.
How many Korean friends do you have now? |
I've had a lot of Korean friends stand up for me, but I think I've also poisoned the well a bit with all the stories of outrageous behaviour by FTs I've told them, lol. |
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Captain Corea

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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komerican wrote: |
People understandably may feel that these reports are unfair but I have to shrug since asians are also treated like this and worse by western media. For example, there are billions of asians but I've rarely, if ever, saw on TV in the States a show depicting a happy asian father/child relationship or happy asian families with a strong father figure. There are plenty of shows of asian women wanting western men though.
Point this out to non-asians and their reaction is that the PC culture is strangling america or that the media doesn't matter, or no reaction at all. We know, however, that when the shoe is on the other foot, the reaction is a bit more negative and visceral. |
Are there also programs investigating Asians in America?
Honestly, I'm not from the States, so why don't you point me in the direction of all the 20/20 reports on Asians drinking on their own time and then working the next day (the horror!).
I can see in the clip that they went to Hondae and interviewed Foreigners...
"Are you and English teacher?"
"Yes, I'm an English teacher."
Wow, teachers were actually out drinking at night! How would have thunk it.  |
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