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ruffie
Joined: 11 Oct 2006
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 Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 10:19 am Post subject: |
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| I've got nothing against circumcision, but if your baby is mixed or fully foreign, do you really want a Korean doctor slicing away at your boy's pecker? Ooops, scalpel slipped, the ultimate victory for Korea! (plus a kickback from his sex re-assignment clinic colleagues down the hall). |
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IlIlNine
Joined: 15 Jun 2005
Location: Gunpo, Gyonggi, SoKo
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| Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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The whole argument is silly.
Sure, it seems to offer some benefits -- that don't really come into play until the kid's sexually active.
There's no reason not to wait and let the child take part in the decision...
There may be reason to get it done... but none whatsoever for getting it done while the kid's a baby. That's just mean.
If there really is such a strong case for it, undoubtedly the child will consent. If not, then who are you to force that kind of mutilation on a child? |
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uberscheisse
Joined: 02 Dec 2003
Location: japan is better than korea.
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| Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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first off, whether the guy gets the kid snipped or not is nobody's business.
male circumcision is unnecessary, but it's hardly the savage act that people are getting their male lesbian bloomers in a bunch over in this thread.
i bet if the OP revealed he was a jew, you'd all shut your faces as he placidly and proudly planned his son's bris.
one thing nobody has considered - maybe the circumcision was necessary? one of my closest friends had her first son 7 months ago. she had planned to not get him snipped, but when they examined his little funstick, its foreskin had no hole. so instead of him making a giant skin/piss balloon, they got him snipped. he, like every other circumcised male since the dawn of dumb ideas, is fine.
main thing is, if it was some sort of north african female circumcision and we were talking about cutting some girl's vulva up so that whenever she had sex it was painful, then you all might have some argument.
and another thing is, when the babe does his korean army service, it's likely he'll be circumcised anyways, right? my friend's husband's first job in the K-military was performing circumcisions. |
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reactionary
Joined: 22 Oct 2006
Location: korreia
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| Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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| christ, circumcision as an adult! that's torture and one you'll remember. |
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uberscheisse
Joined: 02 Dec 2003
Location: japan is better than korea.
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| Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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| christ, circumcision as an adult! that's torture and one you'll remember. |
yeah, i mean... the whole argument could be applied to other things - "why bother birthing him while he's so young? it's so traumatic! wait until he's at least at the age of majority until you stretch your birth canal over his head and shoulders!" |
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endo
Joined: 14 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul...my home
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| Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Scotticus wrote: |
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Dude, the HIV studies are very new and could very easily be refuted by future studies. In Africa it makes sense to circumsize everybody because they lack the proper health care to combat HIV properly.
In the West, it is nonsense. We should be teaching our boys that they need to wrap up their peckers until they are in a committed relationship. Period. |
No Octavius! One study has possibly shown a correlation between circumcision and a drop in HIV transmission, and that's good enough for me! Disregard the lack of long-term research on the subject and the fact that it seems to contradict a lot of previous research! You are wrong, the *beep* cutters are right, now stop preaching your "safe sex" mantra and get on the side who has a 30% smaller chance of contracting HIV! We're invincible! |
 brilliant! |
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Draz
Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam
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| Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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| uberscheisse wrote: |
and another thing is, when the babe does his korean army service, it's likely he'll be circumcised anyways, right? my friend's husband's first job in the K-military was performing circumcisions. |
Ugh, five darn pages and this is all there is on whether guys in Korea are generally cut or not? I want to know!! So do they get a mandatory cut when they do mandatory military service or what?! *crosses fingers for YES*
Learning that European guys generally aren't cut was a dark fricking day for me. I'd assumed they generally wouldn't be cut in Asian countries too. Maybe I'll be getting some Korean wang after all.  |
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Scotticus
Joined: 18 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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| uberscheisse wrote: |
i bet if the OP revealed he was a jew, you'd all shut your faces as he placidly and proudly planned his son's bris.
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Only if we were all thumb-sucking pansies. Being liberal does not equal being ignorantly tolerant. Cutting up a baby's dick is wrong, whether or not you're a Jew, Muslim, Hindu, Shaman, whatever. Seriously, though. You're taking the genitals of another human being (a freaking baby, no less), and cutting a bunch of it off WHILE THE CHILD IS AWAKE. It's not like they conk the kid out and snippety snip. The poor son of a bitch just knows he's naked a cold and then BAM his dick's gushing blood. Shitty way to enter the world. |
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uberscheisse
Joined: 02 Dec 2003
Location: japan is better than korea.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Scotticus wrote: |
| uberscheisse wrote: |
i bet if the OP revealed he was a jew, you'd all shut your faces as he placidly and proudly planned his son's bris.
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Only if we were all thumb-sucking pansies. Being liberal does not equal being ignorantly tolerant. Cutting up a baby's *beep* is wrong, whether or not you're a Jew, Muslim, Hindu, Shaman, whatever. Seriously, though. You're taking the genitals of another human being (a freaking baby, no less), and cutting a bunch of it off WHILE THE CHILD IS AWAKE. It's not like they conk the kid out and snippety snip. The poor son of a *beep* just knows he's naked a cold and then BAM his *beep*'s gushing blood. *beep* way to enter the world. |
do you think that at age 1 day his tallywhacker is fully developed and he even knows what's going on? does the thing even have nerve endings? it's a flap of fucking skin, dude. it isn't a leg or a thumb.
i mean really - have you witnessed a circumcision? have you ever seen one happen? is it as gory as you claim? does a newborn baby really have that kind of awareness of what is going on? and, will he remember the trauma? no!
my friend's husband's family has a minor genetic mutation - about 50% of the males develop vestigial toes. they're undeveloped, not very big, no bone structure inside. what do they do? cut it off so the kid can wear shoes when he's older. why don't you rail against that, too? i'll give you their email address if you want.
that said, i don't back male circumcision because it's unnecessary and based on archaic ideas. but it's not the savage practice some of the dummies in this thread claim. |
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Scotticus
Joined: 18 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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| do you think that at age 1 day his tallywhacker is fully developed and he even knows what's going on? does the thing even have nerve endings? it's a flap of *beep* skin, dude. it isn't a leg or a thumb. |
Yes. He was born. Unless he's a pre-me, everything is "fully developed." There's a reason the baby cries after it gets poked with a needle after it's born (here's a hint, cause he feels it!). And it's just a "flap of skin," huh? So you're saying you'd sign up to have a chunk of your body cut off while you were coherent and not under any anesthetic? No? Didn't think so.
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| i mean really - have you witnessed a circumcision? have you ever seen one happen? is it as gory as you claim? does a newborn baby really have that kind of awareness of what is going on? and, will he remember the trauma? no! |
Who cares if he doesn't know what's going on or won't remember it? That's like saying raping a girl who's passed out is okay cause she "won't remember it."
And in answer to your little circumcision bluff, I had a circumcision when I was 7. It's easily the most painful thing I've ever experienced (and I was out cold for the actual operation). When they took the bandage off it was completely black and blue. I almost passed out when I saw it.
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| my friend's husband's family has a minor genetic mutation - about 50% of the males develop vestigial toes. they're undeveloped, not very big, no bone structure inside. what do they do? cut it off so the kid can wear shoes when he's older. why don't you rail against that, too? i'll give you their email address if you want. |
Do they have a seat at the kitchen table and hack it off while the kid is wide awake? Furthermore, you're referring to a mutation, not a natural functional part of the body. Foreskin is there for a reason, extra toes are there by accident. Big difference.
PS - You lost points for using the term tallywhacker in a non-ironic way.[/quote] |
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endo
Joined: 14 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul...my home
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| Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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| uberscheisse wrote: |
i bet if the OP revealed he was a jew, you'd all shut your faces as he placidly and proudly planned his son's bris.
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Nope, sorry I wouldn't. |
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pounamu
Joined: 19 Jul 2007
Location: Sangbong
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| Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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I would get my baby circumcised for health reasons.
A lot of people here are making it sound similar to hacking off one's left arm to ensure he is right-handed.
I think it's best to do it while he's a baby and not wait until he's
...say...7 years old when he can still remember and be bitter
about it.
And yeah, the OP asked for information. Not so many useful
posts in here huh? |
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reactionary
Joined: 22 Oct 2006
Location: korreia
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| Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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| now that i read all these rabid anti-circumcision posts, i'd have to say koreans and their foolish ideas about fan death are starting to sound a lot more sensical |
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uberscheisse
Joined: 02 Dec 2003
Location: japan is better than korea.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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And in answer to your little circumcision bluff, I had a circumcision when I was 7. It's easily the most painful thing I've ever experienced (and I was out cold for the actual operation). When they took the bandage off it was completely black and blue. I almost passed out when I saw it.
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this is entirely different to having it done to a baby. in your case, unethical, unless it was done because you had some massive health problem.
but a baby getting snipped just out of the womb is a different story.
you have revealed that your emotions cloud your judgement when arguing this subject. therefore i ignored the part about rape. and all the other stuff.
let's just agree to disagree, since we both do agree that circumcision is stupid. i just argue that it's not as traumatic for babies as most of the anti side are arguing. |
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ajgeddes
Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Yongsan
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| Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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| When I have a child, he will probably be circumcised as well. People on here make it seem way worse than it is. |
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