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From tomorrow's Stars & Stripes--taxi driver murders wom

 
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 10:30 pm    Post subject: From tomorrow's Stars & Stripes--taxi driver murders wom Reply with quote

Seoul taxi driver accused of killings.

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SEOUL � South Korean police arrested a cab driver and two accomplices on Thursday on suspicion of raping and killing three female passengers earlier in the month.

Police said the driver picked up two women, ages 24 and 25, in the Hongdae area of Seoul at 2 a.m. on Aug. 18. The other two men followed the taxi in a rented car to a deserted area on the outskirts of the city, and all three raped and suffocated the women, then dumped them into the Han River, police said.


See link for the rest of the story.

What scum! This is terribly sad news for the women and their families, of course. However, I'm glad the police managed to catch the (alleged) culprits.

I'm a bit curious as to how the police came up with this gem, though:
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Police also said they cannot release the name of the taxi company the men worked for because of privacy concerns.


Huh? The cops have no problem with releasing the service affiliation and the actual names of US servicemembers accused of crimes here. What's so private about the name of the taxi company?

And now here's my blast at the US military commands here (remembering that I'm retired from the US military): What are you playing at? Your "advice" in that article shows that you're just parroting soundbites without paying attention to the details of what happened. Two of the young women were traveling together (what the military calls "the buddy system"). They're dead. None of the three women got into a cab with a strange passenger. The driver's accomplices followed in another vehicle. Wow. Next thing I expect to see from your "brilliant" minds is yet another punitive ban on innocent people. That's to follow such stupid mistakes you've made as commanders as restricting people below the grade of E-7 (Army and Marine Corps Staff Sergeants/Air Force Master Sergeants/Navy and Coast Guard Petty Officers First Class) from driving POVs here because of a couple of accidents, putting an entire district off-limits because of the actions of one individual, and restricting all servicemembers to base because of one incident.

If you're curious why I griped about the military in this post, it's because of the way the story's presented in the Stars & Stripes, the US military's overseas newspaper.
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Pyongshin Sangja



Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: I love baby!

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow.
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Pligganease



Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: The deep south...

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just coming from the clubs, dressing the way they do?

They were begging for it. Wink
( I have to put the wink or else Big_Bird might think I'm serious.)

The S&S is right to warn the troops about stuff like that, though. Gawd, imagine if it had been a foreigner that was either the victim or the perpetrator. The Korean media would have crucified them either way.
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ED209



Joined: 17 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know the name of the taxi service they worked for but I think it's owned by a Mr Kim or a Mr Lee.
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JMO



Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope, you better keep this on the downlow, but his family name rhymes with aardvark.

BTW..horrible horrible crime, I can only imagine the dawning recognition of what is going on..scary stuff.
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Atavistic



Joined: 22 May 2006
Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 10:13 pm    Post subject: Re: From tomorrow's Stars & Stripes--taxi driver murders Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:

Huh? The cops have no problem with releasing the service affiliation and the actual names of US servicemembers accused of crimes here. What's so private about the name of the taxi company?


I don't know enough about the interaction between the Korean police and military police and jurisdiction. It is possible that the Korean citizen of a Korean taxi company falls under one jurisdiction and US service members fall under another?

I'm not saying that wouldn't be a lousy reason, but it would be a plausible one.
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CentralCali



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 11:01 pm    Post subject: Re: From tomorrow's Stars & Stripes--taxi driver murders Reply with quote

Atavistic wrote:
It is possible that the Korean citizen of a Korean taxi company falls under one jurisdiction and US service members fall under another?

I'm not saying that wouldn't be a lousy reason, but it would be a plausible one.


It's a good guess, but it's not plausible. The simple reason is that the US military members fall under both civilian (Republic of Korea) and military (Uniform Code of Military Justice, part of US Federal law). The Korean police, of course, fall under Republic of Korea law. If they can't release the name of the taxi driver's employer, then they can't release the name of the military member's employer either. As we know from the incident when the ROKA conscriptee lost it and killed a number of other soldiers, there's obviously no problem with the police releasing the name of the employer.
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Atavistic



Joined: 22 May 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 1:25 am    Post subject: Re: From tomorrow's Stars & Stripes--taxi driver murders Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:
Atavistic wrote:
It is possible that the Korean citizen of a Korean taxi company falls under one jurisdiction and US service members fall under another?

I'm not saying that wouldn't be a lousy reason, but it would be a plausible one.


It's a good guess, but it's not plausible. The simple reason is that the US military members fall under both civilian (Republic of Korea) and military (Uniform Code of Military Justice, part of US Federal law).


Ah. OK.

So....do the Korean cops ever release names of NON-military foreigners?

(I think it's just a case of common old Korean racism at work--YAY! Korea--I'm just curious if this extends beyond the military and/or into other Asian citizens.)
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 3:49 am    Post subject: Re: From tomorrow's Stars & Stripes--taxi driver murders Reply with quote

Atavistic wrote:
Ah. OK.

So....do the Korean cops ever release names of NON-military foreigners?

(I think it's just a case of common old Korean racism at work--YAY! Korea--I'm just curious if this extends beyond the military and/or into other Asian citizens.)


I'd have to say you're 100% correct in that. In a recent case, the Korean authorities released the name of an individual and the name of the company which employed him. The individual was loosely connected to the US military in that his employer is a concessionaire on the base. That means the employer and the employees are not covered under the Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA).
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riverboy



Joined: 03 Jun 2003
Location: Incheon

PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I normally try and stay out of the bad Korea, foreigner victim thing. I know it exists, but its something we have to deal with. For the most part, I say put up with it, or go home.

This case is horrific and I can't find anything about it in the Korean media which makes it all that more terrible.
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Hater Depot



Joined: 29 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 5:37 am    Post subject: Re: From tomorrow's Stars & Stripes--taxi driver murders Reply with quote

Atavistic wrote:
CentralCali wrote:
Atavistic wrote:
It is possible that the Korean citizen of a Korean taxi company falls under one jurisdiction and US service members fall under another?

I'm not saying that wouldn't be a lousy reason, but it would be a plausible one.


It's a good guess, but it's not plausible. The simple reason is that the US military members fall under both civilian (Republic of Korea) and military (Uniform Code of Military Justice, part of US Federal law).


Ah. OK.

So....do the Korean cops ever release names of NON-military foreigners?

(I think it's just a case of common old Korean racism at work--YAY! Korea--I'm just curious if this extends beyond the military and/or into other Asian citizens.)


They don't release the names of anyone. You can browse through Korea Beat's crime archive and see plenty of examples, some bordering on the ridiculous, like celebrities easily identifiable from the other biographical data they do include.
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