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mack4289
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 Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 8:50 pm Post subject: the sandinistas and the us fight the war on drugs |
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Is this as ironic as I think?
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/09/02/america/LA-GEN-Nicaragua-US-Aid.php
"Nicaraguan President Daniel Ortega said he has asked the U.S. government to send Central America at least US$1 billion (�730 million) in additional anti-drug aid.
The former U.S. foe and Sandinista leader said Saturday he sent a formal request for the funds to buy helicopters, boats, radar equipment and anything else necessary to fight drug trafficking in the region.
He added that U.S. officials "reacted positively and said they would send a delegation to analyze the idea of cooperation and establish the rules of the game." |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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| See once a side gives up their war the US doesn't bother them. |
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JMO
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| Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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What's going to happen in 5 years when you find out that they use American aid to stamp out a minority, kill innocent people, start a war etc etc.
It seems to me that America will give heavy duty armory to anyone who says they are on their side. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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| What's going to happen in 5 years when you find out that they use American aid to stamp out a minority, kill innocent people, start a war etc etc. |
You have some proof of that
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| It seems to me that America will give heavy duty armory to anyone who says they are on their side. |
I think Nicaragua was asking for helicopters, boats, radar equipment .
To fight drugs.
I don't see any M- 1 Tanks- do you ? |
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JMO
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee"]
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| What's going to happen in 5 years when you find out that they use American aid to stamp out a minority, kill innocent people, start a war etc etc. |
You have some proof of that
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| It seems to me that America will give heavy duty armory to anyone who says they are on their side. |
I think Nicaragua was asking for helicopters, boats, radar equipment .
To fight drugs.
I don't see any M- 1 Tanks- do you ? |
Your asking for proof of what is going to happen in 5 years? No I don't. Do you normally ask questions to which you know the answer?
Sorry not heavy duty armory..my mistake.
And what is with this fighting drugs thing? How can you fight drugs? Or for that matter how can you fight terror? It's terrorism..dropping the ism does not make it sound cooler.
Everytime I hear about the war on terror, I think someone is going to beat up Stephen King. |
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contrarian
Joined: 20 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Ortega says he changed. It looks like he has. Being friends with the US is much better than being enemies. Cuba is a case in point. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 12:13 am Post subject: |
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| Your asking for proof of what is going to happen in 5 years? No I don't. Do you normally ask questions to which you know the answer? |
then why are you telling us what is going to happen in 5 years
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| And what is with this fighting drugs thing? How can you fight drugs? Or for that matter how can you fight terror? It's terrorism..dropping the ism does not make it sound cooler. |
Get the drug lords , kill the drug plants.
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| Everytime I hear about the war on terror, I think someone is going to beat up Stephen King.[/ |
Kill the leaders and elties that support the terrorists.
Kill those that call for a holy war against the US. |
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JMO
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 4:58 am Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| .then why are you telling us what is going to happen in 5 years |
Because it seems like the people America are friends with later become their enemies.
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| Get the drug lords , kill the drug plants |
But how is this a war on drugs? I don't understand how you can fight cocaine for example unless you put alot of it in bag and hit until it talks.
Supply and demand baby...war on drugs is a massive exercise on futility as well as having a stupid name.
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Kill the leaders and elties that support the terrorists.
Kill those that call for a holy war against the US |
Yes and that is called terrorism. Can we not just agree to call it that. War on Terror sounds very melodramatic. Whats next a 'War on anxiety' sponsored by xanex..'War on carsickness' wuld be a good idea as that really bugs me. How about a 'War on Obesity' ..we could invade McDonalds.. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:06 am Post subject: |
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| .then why are you telling us what is going to happen in 5 years |
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Because it seems like the people America are friends with later become their enemies.
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sometimes not in every case. Japan and South Korea . West Europe. Seems like a lot of people didn't become enemies
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| Get the drug lords , kill the drug plants |
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But how is this a war on drugs? I don't understand how you can fight cocaine for example unless you put alot of it in bag and hit until it talks. |
It is not the best terms but can you think of a better one?
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Supply and demand baby...war on drugs is a massive exercise on futility as well as having a stupid name. |
I am in favor of general decriminalization but if that doesn't happen then kill the plants and kill the drug lords, and maybe do that anyway.
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Yes and that is called terrorism. Can we not just agree to call it that. War on Terror sounds very melodramatic. Whats next a 'War on anxiety' sponsored by xanex..'War on carsickness' wuld be a good idea as that really bugs me. How about a 'War on Obesity' ..we could invade McDonalds.. |
No cause the US is fighting for a good cause and Al Qaeda is a fascist hate group, like the Klan.
When they incite violence or fund Al Qaeda then they are part of the war against the US. It is not terrorism cause they are not innocent people.
Anything the US does to force the Al Qaedists/ Jihad international , the Bathists or the Khomeni followers is pretty much ok. They don't have a right to their war. They are illegitimate and sinister. |
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Summer Wine
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| Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:12 am Post subject: |
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Because it seems like the people America are friends with later become their enemies.
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You are a wizard. I am so impressed.
How about blaming the Pakistan Government for the Taliban, oh! don't forget yesterdays bombing in Pakistan. That was for supporting Islamism in the 1980's.
I blame Americans for making stupid mistakes in the present. Not for being bad fortune tellers. Admittedly, if they are correct that Nicuaguara (?) has become their friend, then maybe America should attack everyone.
Japan, Germany, Russia, Vietnam, China, Nicuaguara (?) who were all their enemies have become thier friends.
Actually thats pretty weird. They isolate their friends and embrace their enemies. Hmm, maybe you are right. Maybe my country should re-invoke the joke of the 80's.
"Make war with America, then surrender and let them pay for all of the development that we need." |
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tiger fancini
Joined: 21 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:18 am Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
kill the drug plants.
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I knew it - those pesky plants are in league with the b'aathists, khomenists and al-qaidaists aren't they? Presumably if the plants give up their war, there won't be a problem anymore? |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:23 am Post subject: |
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| knew it - those pesky plants are in league with the b'aathists, khomenists and al-qaidaists aren't they? Presumably if the plants give up their war, there won't be a problem anymore? |
Well now that you mention it.
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'Hezbollah drugs ring' broken up
Police in Ecuador say they have broken up an international drugs ring which was raising money for the Islamic militant group, Hezbollah. |
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4117960.stm
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JMO
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:24 am Post subject: |
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Joo I'm not criticising the 'war' or anything, I was just making a joke about the name.
The 'war on terror' is funny. It's over the top and melodramatic. It might be just me who thinks it. I find these kind of things funny.
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| It is not terrorism cause they are not innocent people. |
What terrorism is only perpertrated by innocent people?
I just find the war on terror is a funny name. First of all terror is really a feeling..you feel terrified, you experience terror. You cannot have a war against it. Again its just something I find funny. |
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JMO
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:25 am Post subject: |
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| tiger fancini wrote: |
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
kill the drug plants.
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I knew it - those pesky plants are in league with the b'aathists, khomenists and al-qaidaists aren't they? Presumably if the plants give up their war, there won't be a problem anymore? |
Ooh 'give up their war' is another good one. Basically anything that sounds like it is being said from a soapbox to inspire emotion normally comes out as corny..axis of evil...war on terror..etc |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:30 am Post subject: |
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"JMO"]
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| Joo I'm not criticising the 'war' or anything, I was just making a joke about the name. |
Ok
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The 'war on terror' is funny. It's over the top and melodramatic. It might be just me who thinks it. I find these kind of things funny. |
Think of a better word. The US could say a war against the Bathists the Khomeni lovers and the Al Qaedists but that is long.
The US could say war on the Jihadists but that is offensive to muslims.
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| What terrorism is only perpertrated by innocent people? |
Usually it is done against innocent people
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I just find the war on terror is a funny name. First of all terror is really a feeling..you feel terrified, you experience terror. You cannot have a war against it. Again its just something I find funny. |
Can you think of a better description?
Actually there have been alternative names likes war against the Unholy warriors. War against the Jihadists. War against militant islam
War against Islamists.
But these terms also are not perfect.
The war on terror is not perfect but it is less offensive and controversial that other terms. I am sure the US government would be very thankful to you if you came up with a better term. |
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